Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Oct 2005 14:08 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Following yesterday's release of Ubuntu 5.10RC, the Kubuntu developers are pleased to announce the Kubuntu Breezy Release Candidate. New in Kubuntu Breezy are KDE 3.4, modularized X.org 6.8.2, a new package manager (Adept), easier control center, OOo2, and much more.
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RE[2]: Dumb question alert
by pinky on Fri 7th Oct 2005 21:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Dumb question alert"
pinky
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2005-07-15

Why would you overwrite it with Kubuntu? You can apt-get it all instead. That way you could still have Gnome installed as well

yes you can, but i think it's a bad idea.
I have installed GNOME and KDE on one system too. But what i don't like is that also all GNOME apps are in the KDE menu and all KDE apps are also in the GNOME menu.
This makes both DEs bloated. I would really like it if the (k)ubuntu team would find a way to keep KDE and GNOME completely separated. I want to have KDE and GNOME on my system. But if i decide to use GNOME i want a GNOME-system and if i decide to use KDE i want a KDE-system and not that jumble all over both desktops.

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RE[3]: Dumb question alert
by Symgeosis on Fri 7th Oct 2005 22:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Dumb question alert"
Symgeosis Member since:
2005-09-13

But what i don't like is that also all GNOME apps are in the KDE menu and all KDE apps are also in the GNOME menu

At one time, GNOME and KDE menu items weren't compatible. Speaking from experience, I have no desire to go back to the way things were. Belive me, it's much nicer this way. ;-)

However, digging through menu files I've seen a "GNOME only" tag, though I'm not sure if it actually works or not. I'm not sure if there is a "KDE only" tag. Though for KDE applications in GNOME's menu, you can always hide the menu items via SMEG.

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RE[3]: Dumb question alert
by on Sat 8th Oct 2005 03:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Dumb question alert"
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I have installed GNOME and KDE on one system too. But what i don't like is that also all GNOME apps are in the KDE menu and all KDE apps are also in the GNOME menu. This makes both DEs bloated.

Only a few of us geeks are doing that. The typical use case is a Gnome user installing a few KDE apps, or a KDE user installing a few Gnome apps, so having a shared menu system makes sense. If you're a Gnome user and you install AmaroK, you want it to appear in the menus; especially if you're a non-technical user and you don't understand the distinction between Gnome and KDE apps anyway - they're just apps to you. If it didn't show up in your menus you'd be damned confused.

But it should be pretty easy to make a "keep menus separate" option by redirecting the KDE and Gnome configs to different files. Might be a good question to raise in a KDE or Gnome support forum.

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RE[4]: Dumb question alert
by anda_skoa on Sat 8th Oct 2005 18:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Dumb question alert"
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2005-07-07

But it should be pretty easy to make a "keep menus separate" option by redirecting the KDE and Gnome configs to different files.

You would have to set the respective XDG_* environment variables differently depending on which DE you start and make sure no application installs into the default path /usr/share/applications

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