Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Oct 2005 18:56 UTC, submitted by Innova
Debian and its clones "As many of our customers know, Libranet is a small company pioneered by the vision of Jon Danzig. The recent passing of Jon Danzig has necessitated changes to the way Libranet runs and does business. Libranet will be undergoing a period of restructuring during which we will not be be taking new orders. Libranet will continue to provide support for our existing customers, and the Libranet forum will remain open."
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RE[3]: The Ubuntu effect?
by Clinton on Sat 8th Oct 2005 05:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The Ubuntu effect?"
Clinton
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2005-07-05

I know you feel strongly about it, but Libranet (nor any Linux) isn't God's gift to computing.

Hey! Put a lid on the stink-talk, nervey.

I am quite ambivalent on the subject of Linux. I think it makes a decent desktop (not perfect, but decent), but what really allows it to make Windows look like a polished turd is its scriptability. I can do things in one command statement that would take a team of developers a month to accomplish on Windows (okay, maybe a touch of hyperbole there, but not much).

I like the BSDs too, except NetBSD. I install it once and spent an hour staring at an empty screen with a prompt. We both just sat there staring at each other waiting for each other to tell us what to do.

OS X has a great level of scriptability too (duh), but it costs a lot of money for hardware, so I could only afford a Mini (itís not the size that counts, but what you do with it, right?)

Sidetrack!!! Sorry. Anyway, Libranet may not be the top of the Linux championship ladder, but it is a very nice distribution and I would recommend you buy a copy of their latest version if youíre in the market for a good desktop distro; or rather I would make such a recommendation if it were possible get. Which itís not. So I wonít.

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RE[4]: The Ubuntu effect?
by on Sat 8th Oct 2005 11:58 in reply to "RE[3]: The Ubuntu effect?"
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">> I know you feel strongly about it, but Libranet (nor any Linux) isn't God's gift to computing."

"> Hey! Put a lid on the stink-talk, nervey."

This is not "stink-talk", it's the truth.

"I am quite ambivalent on the subject of Linux. I think it makes a decent desktop (not perfect, but decent), but what really allows it to make Windows look like a> polished turd is its scriptability."

The argument is not that Windows is better, it's that Linux is far from perfect. It's a UNIX-like OS, it's not surprising that allows you to script galore.

The point of my comment is that many people seem to ignore the huge problems that Linux (or FBSD, or many other free UNIXes) have and say "See, it's prime for the desktop!"

Sorry, it isn't prime for the desktop. And for the record, I'm no MS fanboy, I use and develop with a multitude of UNIXes (Linux, FBSD, OBSD, NetBSD).

Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Libranet, doesn't matter, there is still a long way to go.

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RE[5]: The Ubuntu effect?
by morgoth on Sat 8th Oct 2005 12:56 in reply to "RE[4]: The Ubuntu effect?"
morgoth Member since:
2005-07-08

Quote: "Sorry, it isn't prime for the desktop."

I disagree. It's fine. It depends on the person using it. But, then, the average person using Microsoft Windows has absolutely NO idea on what they're doing. Does that mean Windows isn't ready for the desktop?

Now - before you say I'm wrong, think about this. I work in the IT industry, on a helpdesk, providing support to dumbass people. And let me tell you, 95% of my customers, are dumb when it comes to computers. And, worse, they don't want to learn. They want someone to wipe their bums when they f--k up. I get paid, so I don't mind. Windows users and Windows itself, is not ready for the desktop. Until a operating system learns to telepathically communicate with the user, and has an artificial intelligence, that allows it to think creatively, on the fly, without constraints, we're not going to have a 'ready' desktop.

Dave

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RE[5]: The Ubuntu effect?
by Clinton on Sun 9th Oct 2005 06:51 in reply to "RE[4]: The Ubuntu effect?"
Clinton Member since:
2005-07-05

Perhaps it is your truth. It isn't mine.

Here's what I want (pulled from work just yesterday).

I want a desktop where I can type just one line on the command line to do all of the following:

1) Recursively traverse a directory structure looking for filenames with the HTM and HTML file extensions.

2) Open each of these files and search for the string "charset=Windows-1252".

3) Change this string to "charset=utf-8" if found.

4) Save the file.

5) Save a printable log file of the entire transaction.

Windows just can't do it. There's no power there.

That's the sort of thing I do with my desktop. What do you do with yours?

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