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RE[4]: Comment by spinnekopje
by siride on Tue 20th Apr 2010 14:51
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I'm sorry, you're still failing the see the fundamental and significant difference between having to download a few EXEs and install them, and having to tweak config files, apply patches, download experimental versions of software and potentially still not getting your hardware to work. If you can't see the difference, then no wonder Linux is failing on the desktop.
I'm sorry, downloading EXEs and installing them is not "hacking around".
RE[5]: Comment by spinnekopje
by Laurence on Tue 20th Apr 2010 15:03
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Member since:2007-03-26
I'm sorry, you're still failing the see the fundamental and significant difference between having to download a few EXEs and install them, and having to tweak config files, apply patches, download experimental versions of software and potentially still not getting your hardware to work. If you can't see the difference, then no wonder Linux is failing on the desktop.
I'm sorry, downloading EXEs and installing them is not "hacking around".
I'm sorry, downloading EXEs and installing them is not "hacking around".
Right, I can see we're going round in circles now so I'm only going to say this one last time:
1/ I never stated that downloading an EXE in Windows is "hacking around".
2/ 4 out of 5 systems I build I don't have to tweak config files, run experimental versions of software or apply patches to get my hardware working. 99% of the time my hardware works 1st time in Linux. No mess, no nothing. 99% of the time Linux works "out of the box". 99% of the time, Linux "just works". 99% of the time I install the OS, reboot once, then I have a *FULLY* functional OS. ie 99% of the time your argument is WRONG.
I hope that clears up some confusion.
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But my point is Linux is already equivelent to Windows in most repects without having to download drivers.
but you're still missing the point that it's only a small percentage of hardware that require hacking about.
And by the way, I don't know about other vendors, but Lenovo has all the drivers available on a single page on their site. You download them all, run each one and your done. That's pretty easy.
That's good, aside the fact (and as I'd already explained) that you still have countless reboots between driver installs as you can't install everything in one job lot - thus significantly increasing installation time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not out to say that Linux is better than Windows. I'm just stating that this myth about Linux not support hardware is just that, a myth. Sure, Linux isn't without it's hardware troubles, but then no OS supports all hardware (not even Windows) and the hardware Linux does support (which is the vast majority of available hardware) it generally supports without additional user downloads and pratting about.
I know personal experience is purely anecdotal, but I honestly think that over the years I've spent an equal amount of time setting up Windows systems with it's driver models as I have Linux systems with missing drivers. And that's without me going out of my way to buy "Linux compatible" hardware.