Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Apr 2010 19:33 UTC, submitted by ozonehole
Legal Yes, even more copyright and intellectual property stuff. We have several stories on this one today, so I figured I'd throw them all together. First and foremost, ACTA has finally been dragged out of the shadows and into the light (thanks to the EU parliament), so we can take a look at what's in there. Is it really as bad as everyone thinks it is? Short answer: yes. Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
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Why is a monarchy so good?
by amadensor on Wed 21st Apr 2010 21:53 UTC
amadensor
Member since:
2006-04-10

"They might want to eventually abolish the monarchy (which goes against every fibre in my body) "

I live in a country that has never had a monarchy, so I do not understand why you would want one. Please help me understand why family heritage is a better system of choosing leadership than the will of those being led.

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churlish_Helmut Member since:
2010-04-12

Why is monarchy so bad? At least, most of the time of human civlisation has been done by kings, so that system can't be that wrong :-)

And i think this news about the ACTA is some more important as the newest IPhone News.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Well, considering that it can really suck when a bad ruler comes into absolute power... but still, given the crap chute we're making of things lately maybe an absolute ruler wouldn't be so bad.
That being said, is the Netherlands a true monarchy? I don't believe it is, as they have a parliamentary government as well, so what's the monarch's purpose? Figurehead?

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Lazarus Member since:
2005-08-10

Why is monarchy so bad? At least, most of the time of human civlisation has been done by kings, so that system can't be that wrong :-)

And i think this news about the ACTA is some more important as the newest IPhone News.


I agree with ACTA news being more important, but it is also a good example of how a small group of people in power can royally (pun intended) screw over everyone else.

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amadensor Member since:
2006-04-10

I did not say that it is bad. Just that I do not understand it. I have never lived with one, and I am curious about what it is like, and what makes it good. I know the issues of self government, like representatives following the polls instead of the long term good, and the possibility of majority abuse of a minority. I also know the good side, like the accountability of those in government to those they govern, and the ability to change things if they are going wrong.

I have never lived with a monarchy, and as Thom implies that they are great, I am interested to know why.

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RE: Why is a monarchy so good?
by sultanqasim on Wed 21st Apr 2010 22:39 in reply to "Why is a monarchy so good?"
sultanqasim Member since:
2006-10-28

The monarchy in such countries is meant to be symbolic and ceremonial, and to preserve the traditions of the nation. For example, Queen Elizabeth is still the Queen of Canada (even though we separated from Britain hundreds of years ago), and most of us don't mind keeping her (with the exception of certain groups like the Quebec seperatists).

Edited 2010-04-21 22:41 UTC

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RE: Why is a monarchy so good?
by Rugxulo on Wed 21st Apr 2010 23:30 in reply to "Why is a monarchy so good?"
Rugxulo Member since:
2007-10-09

I live in a country that has never had a monarchy, so I do not understand why you would want one.


Ditto, American here. A good/bad leader is still a good/bad leader whether king, president, P.M., etc. At least monarchy would maybe save taxpayer money on insane elections that last forever (1+ year) and avoid all the insultingly stupid campaign ads we have to endure.

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coreyography Member since:
2009-03-06

Please help me understand why family heritage is a better system of choosing leadership than the will of those being led.


It isn't. Anyone who like me has lived in the US as of late can attest to that.

Don't get me wrong; I still love my country. But its government in recent years is not one I'd hold up as a model, or even claim to be in any way aware of our founding fathers' principles.

That said, most monarchies now appear to be symbolic, and they generally appear to be good for PR (or entertainment). Whether that is worth the support cost is another debate.

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RE: Why is a monarchy so good?
by Cody Evans on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 01:33 in reply to "Why is a monarchy so good?"
Cody Evans Member since:
2009-08-14

Monarchs are immune to a nifty American invention called "Campaign Contributions"

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Monarchs are immune to a nifty American invention called "Campaign Contributions"


Hah! They're not immune to bribery, they just have a more truthful name for it.

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RE: Why is a monarchy so good?
by Soulbender on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 02:17 in reply to "Why is a monarchy so good?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

What makes you think monarchs are the leaders? They're just figureheads, devoid of any real power that costs the state quite a fair amount of money in upkeep.

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qbast Member since:
2010-02-08

Yeah, probably less than 1/1000 of money recently given to banks as 'bailout'. Oh the horror!

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RE: Why is a monarchy so good?
by AaronD on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 05:53 in reply to "Why is a monarchy so good?"
AaronD Member since:
2009-08-19

You beat me to it. ;)

"They might want to eventually abolish the monarchy (which goes against every fibre in my body)"

I too found the above to be an interesting statement. This is probably the wrong place to discuss it, so hopefully one of Thom's "random subject" blogs will expand on the statement.

Edited 2010-04-22 06:02 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I too found the above to be an interesting statement. This is probably the wrong place to discuss it, so hopefully one of Thom's "random subject" blogs will expand on the statement.


Not sure. Those random slow-day posts at least had something to do with OSNews. This would be, eh, stretching it.

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