Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Apr 2010 23:34 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems So, we have Microsoft slowly but surely trying to be a better citizen in the computing world - with the emphasis on trying. After years of dragging their feet, the company is finally implementing web standards in Internet Explorer, there's a boatload of interoperability information now, that sort of stuff. And then, just when you think they're starting to get it - they go behind our backs to do something incredibly insipid. It's small, you'll barely notice it, but dear lord, it's really, really annoying.
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RE: Not the only way
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 23rd Apr 2010 23:54 UTC in reply to "Not the only way"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Microsoft should've provided a software interface to tap into, a standardised solution. It's idiotic to expect every OEM to write their own inconsistent bit of code to handle this.

This is Microsoft's fault.

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v RE[2]: Not the only way
by tuma324 on Sat 24th Apr 2010 00:08 in reply to "RE: Not the only way"
RE[3]: Not the only way
by n0b0dy on Sat 24th Apr 2010 00:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Not the only way"
n0b0dy Member since:
2009-09-03

1, The manufacturers are plain stupid, since this 'feature' also hurts users of other versions of windows.
They should have implemented it as an option you can turn on and off in the bios.

2. Microsoft were just the usual criminals. They sabotage other OS by rewriting the MBR on install and now by this. Did you consider the option that they act stupid but aren't really that stupid..?

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RE[3]: Not the only way
by Fergy on Sat 24th Apr 2010 05:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Not the only way"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10


Like if they really care with all the billions of customers and money they already have.

You remind me of this guy:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/computers/3.png

So Microsoft makes an OS that slows down the more you use it without an easy way to reinstall without losing data. The user tries to fix this with 'solutions' from the internet. This makes the OS even more buggy and slow. And even though MS created this problem. You point to the user because he should change his behavior to keep the system optimally running.

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RE[3]: Not the only way
by StaubSaugerNZ on Sat 24th Apr 2010 05:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Not the only way"
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13


Like if they really care with all the billions of customers and money they already have.


That the problem for us users. Finally it is becoming a problem for Microsoft too. Please check their 2010 Q1 balance sheet - and no, it's not just the recession, the balance sheet has been progressively worsening recently if you pay very close attention, which is not a good thing for growth-obsessed investors. Despite massive stock buy-backs to keep the share price afloat it has been very slowly deflating. Investors know to put their money elsewhere.

The problem is because there is a growing movement where the smartest people avoid their software, and recommend others do the same as a result of really irksome technical practices like the one described in the original post.

I once read Microsoft's current business practices summed up once as, "In order for Microsoft to win, the customer must lose".

Coming up with (poorly though out) 'solutions' like this that don't work well with the rest of the infrastructure used to be a deliberate strategy to move things to a MS-only world. Clearly they didn't succeed and that attitude is becoming more and more painful now that the Windows PC is not the center of much of the World's digital experience as they move to smart phones etc.

I know there are some intelligent, hard-working, Microsoft folks that read these forums. Please use what influence you have to stop such silly decisions from being made. You hurt users that don't use Windows products, which you could argue don't matter, but in fact these then use their disproportionate influence to stop purchases of Windows for family, friends and colleagues (since they often have professional IT careers, maybe they're not 'decision makers' but that decision-making person never gets to make an MS-favourable decision if the 'influencers' never put such options it in front of them, get it?).

In short, when the elephant turns around it should take care what it steps on.

Edited 2010-04-24 05:28 UTC

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