Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Apr 2010 23:11 UTC, submitted by UglyKidBill
Legal Well, this is unexpected. The iPhone 4G saga just got a whole lot crazier - dare I say it, a whole lot more ridiculous. Have you ever reported anything like a phone or something similarly small stolen to the police? What was their reaction? Did you ever get the device back? Did they send an army of officers to get your device back? No? Odd. They raided Jason Chen's house, and took four computers and two servers. Update: And thus our true colours reveal. "The raid that San Mateo area cops conducted last week on the house of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen came at the behest of a special multi-agency task force that was commissioned to work with the computer industry to tackle high-tech crimes. And Apple Inc. sits on the task force's steering committee." Update II: According to TechCrunch, the investigation has been put on hold while the DA ponders Gizmodo's shield defence. Update III: Some legal insight from a constitutional law and first amendment expert and a law professor. The gist? The DA has said no one has been charged with anything here, making this just an investigation - however, this makes the search and seizing of material worse. "If the police are literally just gathering information, with no suspect targeted yet, then a subpoena against a journalist would have probably been smarter than a search warranted that resulted in the front door of Chen's home being bashed in."
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RE[2]: A crime is a crime
by fanboi_fanboi on Tue 27th Apr 2010 14:01 UTC in reply to "RE: A crime is a crime"
fanboi_fanboi
Member since:
2010-04-21

Gizmodo is not above the law.

Yes, but apparently Apple is.


In this scenario, can you please explain again how Apple broke the law?

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RE[3]: A crime is a crime
by Morgan on Tue 27th Apr 2010 18:25 in reply to "RE[2]: A crime is a crime"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't think Zifre was saying Apple broke the law, rather that they have the power to use law enforcement for their own agendas. They in effect have created an upper class for themselves that can push law enforcement to do things for them that would not be done for the average citizen.

That position can easily be considered "above the law".

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RE[4]: A crime is a crime
by Smeagol on Tue 27th Apr 2010 19:45 in reply to "RE[3]: A crime is a crime"
Smeagol Member since:
2006-01-16

I don't think Zifre was saying Apple broke the law, rather that they have the power to use law enforcement for their own agendas. <snip>


And your proof of this is....??? Ah, I see. You have none.

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RE[3]: A crime is a crime
by Zifre on Tue 27th Apr 2010 21:41 in reply to "RE[2]: A crime is a crime"
Zifre Member since:
2009-10-04

In this scenario, can you please explain again how Apple broke the law?

Apple didn't break the law. In fact, I think they are the most innocent. What Gizmodo did was not right, but what the police did was much worse.

Apple simply used its money and power to make the police do what they wanted. This is completely understandable (although this just decreases my already near 0 probability of buying Apple products). Apple is a corporation, and therefore, evil. The police are really at fault here, because they are supposed to do the right thing.

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RE[4]: A crime is a crime
by fanboi_fanboi on Wed 28th Apr 2010 14:23 in reply to "RE[3]: A crime is a crime"
fanboi_fanboi Member since:
2010-04-21

//Apple is a corporation, and therefore, evil.//

Now that's a even-tempered philosophy to have.

I suppose anarchy is so much better ...

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