Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Apr 2010 23:11 UTC, submitted by UglyKidBill
Legal Well, this is unexpected. The iPhone 4G saga just got a whole lot crazier - dare I say it, a whole lot more ridiculous. Have you ever reported anything like a phone or something similarly small stolen to the police? What was their reaction? Did you ever get the device back? Did they send an army of officers to get your device back? No? Odd. They raided Jason Chen's house, and took four computers and two servers. Update: And thus our true colours reveal. "The raid that San Mateo area cops conducted last week on the house of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen came at the behest of a special multi-agency task force that was commissioned to work with the computer industry to tackle high-tech crimes. And Apple Inc. sits on the task force's steering committee." Update II: According to TechCrunch, the investigation has been put on hold while the DA ponders Gizmodo's shield defence. Update III: Some legal insight from a constitutional law and first amendment expert and a law professor. The gist? The DA has said no one has been charged with anything here, making this just an investigation - however, this makes the search and seizing of material worse. "If the police are literally just gathering information, with no suspect targeted yet, then a subpoena against a journalist would have probably been smarter than a search warranted that resulted in the front door of Chen's home being bashed in."
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RE[5]: Kind of scary
by Morgan on Tue 27th Apr 2010 16:21 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Kind of scary"
Morgan
Member since:
2005-06-29

And since when is an unreleased iPhone classified government data? Since when is Apple the government or a government contractor? Try a better analogy please.

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RE[6]: Kind of scary
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 27th Apr 2010 16:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Kind of scary"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And since when is an unreleased iPhone classified government data? Since when is Apple the government or a government contractor? Try a better analogy please.


I was about to say.

This is exactly what companies like Apple want you to believe - that they are as important as the government itself. Which, of course, is one of the most retarded notions you can have.

If Apple were to vanish right now, sure, it'd be problematic for a select number of people, but that's it. We'll survive, someone else will fill the void. Now imagine the government vanishing right now. It would lead to chaos, death, war, and god knows what else.

Claiming that an Apple employee losing a product prototype is akin to a military official losing highly sensitive defence data just shows how warped and stupid people have become.

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RE[7]: Kind of scary
by StychoKiller on Wed 28th Apr 2010 02:47 in reply to "RE[6]: Kind of scary"
StychoKiller Member since:
2005-09-20

[quote]Now imagine the government vanishing right now. It would lead to chaos, death, war, and god knows what else. [/quote]

OTOH, it could lead to an orgy of Freedom-loving people dancing in the streets (until the Lawyers try to grab control of the World again!)

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RE[6]: Kind of scary
by macUser on Tue 27th Apr 2010 16:45 in reply to "RE[5]: Kind of scary"
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

Just one example. Classified data is classified data. It is still just a USB stick, no? Again, how much is that phone actually worth. To suggest it is _just_ a phone is beyond disingenuous.

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RE[7]: Kind of scary
by Morgan on Tue 27th Apr 2010 16:59 in reply to "RE[6]: Kind of scary"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

And to suggest it warrants the same tactical response as a security breach impacting national security is just as disingenuous; shame on you!

Besides, the most amazing thing about the new iPhone is OS 4, which Jobs already spilled the beans about during the iPad launch. There's an hour long video about it on the Apple website if you'd care to get in on the secrets. The only thing new we got to see on Gizmodo was the physical design, which is subject to change anyway. At the end of the day it's still just a phone.

The fact remains, Apple has pull with the government that even other big companies can't touch, and they are using it for intimidation and harassment. The actual security breach was with their own employee and whoever found the phone, why aren't their massive efforts focused there? Why harass the journalist who broke the story? Because they can. It sends a clear message to other journalists and bloggers: Don't break Apple news that isn't officially sanctioned, or you'll be greatly inconvenienced.

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