Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Apr 2010 16:59 UTC
Editorial Holier-than-thou, an adjective, meaning "marked by an air of superior piety or morality". Everybody has moments in their life where they get into a "holier-than-thou" attitude, and I think Steve Jobs' open letter regarding Adobe, and Flash in particular, really fits the bill. There are three specific points I want to address to illustrate just how holier-than-thou, hypocritical, and misleading this letter really is.
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by Adam S on Thu 29th Apr 2010 20:33 UTC
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I am generally pretty in tune with Thom on things, but this is one we just do not see eye to eye.

I don't see anything wrong with what Steve Jobs said. I agree largely that Flash performance blows on OS X, cross platform tools will lead to lowest common denominator apps of *what the IDE supports*. I don't know why anyone would think Flash is necessary but not Java or other runtimes. And I don't know why anyone would think that Apple is required - or even should - to permit non-natively compiled apps that don't provide a seamless experience when there are so many that do.

The whole concept that Apple is somehow hypocritical for suggesting an open web is preferable even atop an closed underlying OS perplexes me. That's akin to saying "Since Windows is closed source, you should dump HTML and CSS." It's not all-or-nothing.

And this iTunes thing is nonsense: iTunes has always worked seamlessly on OS X, Creative Suite, on the other hand, had many benefits awaiting its transition to Cocoa. It's just silly to compare the two.

Count me as a firm "disgree" here.

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RE: Hogwash
by David on Thu 29th Apr 2010 22:39 in reply to "Hogwash"
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I also thought that Jobs' letter was effective, and although Thom pokes holes in Jobs' argument quite handily, I don't find it the least bit objectionable that Steve Jobs should advocate for his position on his own web site. Jobs is an egomaniac, for sure. The fact that he picks and chooses facts to make his point doesn't necessarily make him a hypocrite, however -- it makes him a "marketing expert," and I think we can all agree that Jobs is one of the world's greatest marketing experts, and kind of a jerk. And also a visionary product guy who makes stuff that people want to buy.

Steve Jobs is so good at making stuff that people want that even people who are really angry at him for Apple's self-serving (and in my opinion short-sighted) business and technology decisions still buy and use Apple products. You can decide that you want to reject Apple's products on ideological grounds, and that's a perfectly legitimate decision, and it's your freedom as a consumer, just as you might reject diamonds, or feedlot beef or Wal-mart. But most people will still shop and Wal-mart and buy feedlot beef and don't make their technology decisions based on ideology. And even people like me who object strenuously to some of Apple's decisions will still hold their noses and buy an iPhone, until a better alternative strikes our fancy, and I don't think that makes us hypocrites. It just makes us normal, conflicted consumers who have to navigate a moral minefield every time we buy something.

Oh, and I also don't care if "on paper" iTunes is crappy software. I've never had any problems with it, on Mac or Windows. I do wish I didn't have to jailbreak my iPhone to be able to transfer files to it without iTunes, though. (Though I would jailbreak my iPhone anyway, because I"m just like that).

Edited 2010-04-29 22:41 UTC

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