Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Apr 2010 18:30 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu It's that time of year again: a new Ubuntu release (or Kubuntu, if that's your thing). Canonical has just released Ubuntu 10.04, Lucid Lynx. This is a long term support release, meaning its supported period is far longer than that of normal releases. It comes with the latest and greatest the Free software world has to offer, while also adding some Ubuntu-specific features, of course.
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RE: Nice release
by segedunum on Thu 29th Apr 2010 22:57 UTC in reply to "Nice release"
segedunum
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2005-07-06

It's snappy, it lets me do what I need to do, and most importantly of all it annoys me less than OS X or Windows.

I sincerely wish people would quantify statements like that because they're becoming older and more tired with every release.

Loosely translated, that means "It has nowhere near the features, functionality and applications of Windows and OS X, but hey, it doesn't annoy me!" and I'm afraid that simply isn't good enough.

This is the first release, imho, that actually feels like they're on the right track and taking details into account for the most part.

Doesn't really say much, does it?

Edited 2010-04-29 22:57 UTC

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RE[2]: Nice release
by darknexus on Fri 30th Apr 2010 08:51 in reply to "RE: Nice release"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I sincerely wish people would quantify statements like that because they're becoming older and more tired with every release.

Loosely translated, that means "It has nowhere near the features, functionality and applications of Windows and OS X, but hey, it doesn't annoy me!" and I'm afraid that simply isn't good enough.


Uh, and why do I care if my comment is good enough for *you*? I don't even know you. Sorry but I'm not losing any sleep over your arrogance. I wish people like you would not put words in my mouth that I didn't say. If it didn't have all the functionality I've become used to over the years from *NIX to Windows to OS X, then it would very much annoy me. Duh. As for applications, well that's just something you face when you use an alternate os: you have to also find alternate applications. Again, duh. If you don't like it, don't use it. Imho, concentrating on open standards and data formats is much more important than fighting over which os people use. It was just my opinion, it's not like I was attempting to pass off my one-liner as a scientific study. Get a life.
And while you're at it, I wish you would quantify your statement of less functionality. ;) Talk about pot calling the kettle black.

This is the first release, imho, that actually feels like they're on the right track and taking details into account for the most part.

Doesn't really say much, does it? [/q]

Is that not why I said this was the first time I felt they were actually starting to pay attention to detail? It took them fscking long enough, on that we agree at least. They aren't yet paying *enough* attention to the overall detail of the system, on that we also seem to agree. Note that my standard of system-wide detail is set by OS X and the way *all* the core applications integrate with each other. I've not found any os yet that has that level of integration, neither Ubuntu nor Windows even come close to that.
And finally, annoyance is very much a factor when you're in front of the computer all the time. Remember this: all oses suck. Which one is right for you just depends on which one you think sucks the least. Let's move on and concentrate on fighting for open data formats and royalty-free standards so that it doesn't matter, and no one need ever give a damn, about which os other people use.

edit: Accidentally hit the submit button too early.

Edited 2010-04-30 08:59 UTC

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RE[3]: Nice release
by segedunum on Fri 30th Apr 2010 11:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Nice release"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Uh, and why do I care if my comment is good enough for *you*? I don't even know you.

Sorry sweetheart, but you're not painting this as my personal opinion. That's why I asked people to quantify statements like yours above.

If you can give me some usage statistics regarding Ubuntu and that people are ditching OS X or Windows for it in particular (you're the one making unqualified statements about it annoying *you* less than OS X or Windows as if that should be relevant for others), then I stand by my statement that it simply isn't good enough.

It's as simple as that.

Sorry but I'm not losing any sleep over your arrogance.

You quite clearly are sunshine.

I wish people like you would not put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

But you did say write things and it is always painted in a way where it somehow applies to other people, even though the words 'I', 'me' and 'you' are used. It's getting ever more sad the more releases of Ubuntu we have.

...you have to also find alternate applications. Again, duh.

You are so far out of your depth it isn't even funny. Ubuntu has no applications. Users finding applications is just laughable. Comparable applications simply aren't there.

And while you're at it, I wish you would quantify your statement of less functionality. ;) Talk about pot calling the kettle black.

Nobody is using it sunshine apart from sad little weenies who think it annoys them 'less' with every release. I've seen no evidence that people are ditching OS X or Windows for it, there's my qualification.

Is that not why I said this was the first time I felt they were actually starting to pay attention to detail?

How many releases have we had, and what is specifically different about this release than the last - apart from even more OS X worship?

Note that my standard of system-wide detail is set by OS X...

OS X worship in the form of switching your window controls around is going to get you nowhere. If you're replicating OS X badly then what chance have you got?

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