Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 29th Apr 2010 23:04 UTC
Internet Explorer I am almost flabbergasted by the spin and blunt-face upon which this news is delivered. We were just discussing the pot calling the kettle black with Apple / Adobe and now Microsoft have also come out in favour of a closed video format for an open web--IE9's HTML5 video support will allow H264 only. Update Now that the initial shock is over, I've rewritten the article to actually represent news rather than something on Twitter.
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RE[3]: Comment
by modmans2ndcoming on Thu 29th Apr 2010 23:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment"
modmans2ndcoming
Member since:
2005-11-09

darn... all those thieves on Linux will have to continue stealing the codec.

Anyone who claims they do not use x264 is a liar.

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RE[4]: Comment
by segedunum on Thu 29th Apr 2010 23:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Anyone who claims they do not use x264 is a liar.

I don't use it and I don't know of any internet video currently that requires it. Even if that were the case you still need a valid license to actually use it, which Firefox cannot provide or guarantee. They would have to effectively dictate what platforms you could run it on.

Edited 2010-04-30 00:08 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment
by chekr on Fri 30th Apr 2010 01:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

Anyone who claims they do not use x264 is a liar.


I don't. Fluendo has me covered (on OpenSolaris). Am I a liar? ;)

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RE[4]: Comment
by google_ninja on Fri 30th Apr 2010 02:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

ffmpeg, vlc, and x264 are all legal, so long as you live in a country without software patents. That means anywhere but north america or korea, with the UK and australia sort of on the fence about the whole thing.

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RE[5]: Comment
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Apr 2010 02:19 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

ffmpeg, vlc, and x264 are all legal, so long as you live in a country without software patents.


The leaglity or otherwise is not the issue. The issue is that in order to be a web standard, it MUST be royalty-free.

H264 is not royalty-free. Therefore, h264 is not the web standard.

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MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

I saw an article a few days ago saying that Microsoft had won their "long file names in FAT" patent case in Germany. Which suggests that software patents are recognized in Germany, and Europe in general, depending on the nature of the covered technology.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/04/german-appeal-court-u...

"The German decision also shows that European courts are willing to grant software patents, provided that those patents represent genuine technical innovations (like encoding long file names on a filesystem that can't store them) and aren't just business processes (such as running auctions on the Internet)."

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RE[5]: Comment
by cerbie on Fri 30th Apr 2010 04:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

Meanwhile, they are all hosted, and downloadable, in and from the US...

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RE[4]: Comment
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Apr 2010 02:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

darn... all those thieves on Linux will have to continue stealing the codec. Anyone who claims they do not use x264 is a liar.


x264 is a h264 encoder. I have never encoded any videos with h264 encoding, and I therefore claim that I do not use x264. In fact, I don't have it installed.

Would you like to try again with that comment, and see if you can commit libel against me twice in the one thread?

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RE[4]: Comment
by J. M. on Sat 1st May 2010 05:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
J. M. Member since:
2005-07-24

Anyone who claims they do not use x264 is a liar.

Anyone who doesn't know what x264 is should learn it first, before making accusations. ;-)

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