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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by nt_jerkface on Fri 30th Apr 2010 09:08
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What if Google do release VP8 as free, how are they going to support IE9 users? With a plugin to install? We’ve gone right back to 2000 again.
Microsoft’s decision will affect every person who uses the web for the next 10 years.
Decision to not include VP8? I thought the issue was Theora.
Who has the #1 video site and can push any codec? MS or Google?
Anyone else notice how long Chrome for Linux has been in Beta?
The FOSS crowd really needs to stop buying into Google's pillow talk.
Except that the reason Microsoft are allowing H264 _only_ is because it directly channels money into their back pocket through the MPEG-LA. It’s fraud, that’s the only way I can see it.
What if Google do release VP8 as free, how are they going to support IE9 users? With a plugin to install? We’ve gone right back to 2000 again.
Microsoft’s decision will affect every person who uses the web for the next 10 years. It will stifle innovation, keep the megacorops busy with lawsuits against small companies and individuals for an eternity and prevent all new types of business models from springing up around video.
YouTube would have _never_ taken off if they had to pay for every video that was being viewed. YouTube is now a cornerstone of the Internet. That is the kind of change Microsoft have just killed off. I’m sickened by their choice here.
What if Google do release VP8 as free, how are they going to support IE9 users? With a plugin to install? We’ve gone right back to 2000 again.
Microsoft’s decision will affect every person who uses the web for the next 10 years. It will stifle innovation, keep the megacorops busy with lawsuits against small companies and individuals for an eternity and prevent all new types of business models from springing up around video.
YouTube would have _never_ taken off if they had to pay for every video that was being viewed. YouTube is now a cornerstone of the Internet. That is the kind of change Microsoft have just killed off. I’m sickened by their choice here.
Assuming that VP8 is open sourced there is nothing stopping Google from creating a VP8 DirectShow and QuickTime plugins for Windows and Mac OS X respectively. The cold hard reality is that so far the Theora developers have refused to provide a CODEC for DirectShow and QuickTime that not only decodes but also encodes video using easy to use video encoding software. Tell me when I can go "save as' within QuickTime and then export it as a Theora video, then I might remotely give a flying continental about Theora.
Btw, it wouldn't be a browser plugin, it would be a plugin for DirectShow and QuickTime; if people can download and install Chrome, can download and install Flash, christ, if they can download and install any number of applications then I think they can download and install a 1MB CODEC.
Edited 2010-04-30 09:39 UTC
Uh, http://xiph.org/quicktime/
I’ve been ragging on about the QT component being a year out of date, but nethertheless, it exists and you can save-as to OGG in OS X.
Microsoft won’t allow any other codec than H264 so a VP8 directshow component will be useless. Google will have to get users to install ChromeFrame or an ActiveX control.





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Except that the reason Microsoft are allowing H264 _only_ is because it directly channels money into their back pocket through the MPEG-LA. It’s fraud, that’s the only way I can see it.
What if Google do release VP8 as free, how are they going to support IE9 users? With a plugin to install? We’ve gone right back to 2000 again.
Microsoft’s decision will affect every person who uses the web for the next 10 years. It will stifle innovation, keep the megacorops busy with lawsuits against small companies and individuals for an eternity and prevent all new types of business models from springing up around video.
YouTube would have _never_ taken off if they had to pay for every video that was being viewed. YouTube is now a cornerstone of the Internet. That is the kind of change Microsoft have just killed off. I’m sickened by their choice here.