Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Apr 2010 21:40 UTC, submitted by Helge
Legal Well, this certainly explains a whole lot. Both Apple and Microsoft have stated that the legality of Theora is highly debatable, and as it turns out, they knew more than we do - most likely courtesy of their close involvement with the MPEG-LA. Responding to an email from Free Software Foundation Europe activist Hugo Roy, Steve Jobs has stated that a patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora. Update: Monty Montgomery of Xiph (Ogg and Theora's parent organisation) has responded on Slashdot: "If Jobs's email is genuine, this is a powerful public gaffe ('All video codecs are covered by patents'). He'd be confirming MPEG's assertion in plain language anyone can understand. It would only strengthen the pushback against software patents and add to Apple's increasing PR mess. Macbooks and iPads may be pretty sweet, but creative individuals don't really like to give their business to jackbooted thugs."
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RE[5]: arggh, f*ck patents
by vivainio on Fri 30th Apr 2010 22:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: arggh, f*ck patents"
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26

I'm seriously contemplating whether I should even bother getting a Mac now... I'm heavily leaning towards "HELL NO" right about now.


Why are you even contemplating this?

You don't need a Mac. The things you can do with Mac that you can't do with Linux, you sure as hell can do with Windows 7. Your soul will thank you later ;-).

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RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents
by patrix on Fri 30th Apr 2010 23:05 in reply to "RE[5]: arggh, f*ck patents"
patrix Member since:
2006-05-21

Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer must be breaking out the ol' champagne lately, now that it's Apple who's Evil and everyone prefers Microsoft.

How soon we forget.

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RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents
by frood on Sat 1st May 2010 05:20 in reply to "RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents"
frood Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah. Apple have become their own 1984 advert.

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RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 30th Apr 2010 23:43 in reply to "RE[5]: arggh, f*ck patents"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Why are you even contemplating this?

I wouldn't be, if I didn't have this high level of interest in software and operating systems to begin with. To be honest, I don't give a rat's ass about Apple's hardware (the list of complaints I have about it never ends...). It's the OS as well as the software running on top of it that interests me (even though I have many complaints about that too).

You don't need a Mac. The things you can do with Mac that you can't do with Linux, you sure as hell can do with Windows 7. Your soul will thank you later ;-).

True, but really, it'd be more of a toy to me. I guess I'm just a geek... heh. No matter how bad the price, lock-in, restrictions, attitude of the company and various other aspects are, it's always hard to reject playing with a new toy (piece of software). It's like a curse or something. It sucks, really.

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RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents
by nt_jerkface on Sat 1st May 2010 01:45 in reply to "RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


True, but really, it'd be more of a toy to me. I guess I'm just a geek... heh. No matter how bad the price, lock-in, restrictions, attitude of the company and various other aspects are, it's always hard to reject playing with a new toy (piece of software). It's like a curse or something. It sucks, really.


Get a Mac mini from ebay. That way you can continue with your one man protest while not sending the company a dime.

If just want it for a toy then you don't want to spend that much money anyways. I do testing in OSX sometimes and while the geeky side of me likes playing with something different it's never been appealing enough to make me switch from completely. The nice thing about the Mac mini is that if you get bored of it you can put it in a drawer and use the monitor for something else.

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RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents
by woegjiub on Sat 1st May 2010 07:57 in reply to "RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

If you're only after the OS, there's always virtualbox.
The new version has OSX Guest support.

That or hackintoshes, which are a nice way to stick it to apple :p

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RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents
by tylerdurden on Sat 1st May 2010 16:19 in reply to "RE[5]: arggh, f*ck patents"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

LOL, going from Apple to Microsoft... it is like telling people that if it gets too hot in the frying pan they could always jump into the flames.

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RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents
by vivainio on Sat 1st May 2010 16:30 in reply to "RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

LOL, going from Apple to Microsoft... it is like telling people that if it gets too hot in the frying pan they could always jump into the flames.


Yeah, flames tend to be more benign than heated metal.

Microsoft attempted to make the world their walled garden (win32 api, ActiveX, Palladium, Silverlight) and failed. There is no indication that they will succeed now where they failed earlier. They are also being closely watched for anti-competitive behavior.

While the beast has not been completely tamed, Microsoft is currently less dangerous than Apple. Not because they lack power, but because they can't be quite as ruthless as a corporation as Apple is currently (and Apple gets applauded for that by their fan base, while Microsoft never really had a fan base to begin with).

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