Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Apr 2010 21:40 UTC, submitted by Helge
Legal Well, this certainly explains a whole lot. Both Apple and Microsoft have stated that the legality of Theora is highly debatable, and as it turns out, they knew more than we do - most likely courtesy of their close involvement with the MPEG-LA. Responding to an email from Free Software Foundation Europe activist Hugo Roy, Steve Jobs has stated that a patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora. Update: Monty Montgomery of Xiph (Ogg and Theora's parent organisation) has responded on Slashdot: "If Jobs's email is genuine, this is a powerful public gaffe ('All video codecs are covered by patents'). He'd be confirming MPEG's assertion in plain language anyone can understand. It would only strengthen the pushback against software patents and add to Apple's increasing PR mess. Macbooks and iPads may be pretty sweet, but creative individuals don't really like to give their business to jackbooted thugs."
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by kaiwai on Sat 1st May 2010 02:24 UTC in reply to "..."
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Honestly, I don't think there is nothing more entertaiment than see a bunch of "Freedom" lovers pissed off on a propietary company.


Na, what is more funny is when you see people rush from one company to another according to how 'good' or 'evil' they are. Amazing how when Mac OS X was released Apple was the darling of the geek crowd then Apple started acting 'evil' so then there was a rush to *NIX but reality sinks that as a desktop it sucks, Windows 7 is released with cool features long with support for more open standards so there is a rush to Microsoft. Its funny watching people rush from one company to another hoping to find some sort of embodiment of 'goodness' in business form.

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by Gone fishing on Sat 1st May 2010 06:23 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2006-02-22

Na, what is more funny is when you see people rush from one company to another according to how 'good' or 'evil' they are. Amazing how when Mac OS X was released Apple was the darling of the geek crowd then Apple started acting 'evil' so then there was a rush to *NIX but reality sinks that as a desktop it sucks, Windows 7 is released with cool features long with support for more open standards so there is a rush to Microsoft. Its funny watching people rush from one company to another hoping to find some sort of embodiment of 'goodness' in business form.


What planet are you from? This is some alternate universe right? Apple being the love of the Foss community and freedom loving geeks.

Apple has been "evil" for years predating OSX if geeks were interested in OSX its because of Darwin and BSD not because Apple is anti-evil.

Now the Foss community is running to MS as an anti-evil supporter of Opensource - are you mad. If MS is beginning to play nicely (and thats a big if) it is because it feels it has too.

Finally the OS desktop sucks - well my Linux desktop is superior in almost every way to the Vista desktop I use at work.

I'd say to characterise Apple and MS it would be: MS be evil if it advances the companies position and you can get away with it, Apple be evil if possible.

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by bnolsen on Sat 1st May 2010 22:52 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2006-01-06

dont use such a broad brush on the open source communuty. microsoft is still plenty evil. Its always best to have your evil enemies using their own resources to destroy each other if possible.

Apple always has been more evil than microsoft, it's just they've never had any influence until recently.

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by vivainio on Sat 1st May 2010 09:28 in reply to "RE: ..."
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2008-12-26


Na, what is more funny is when you see people rush from one company to another according to how 'good' or 'evil' they are.


Yeah, it cracks me up every time. This "personal ethics" nonsense is really getting in a way of honest american capitalism.

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by kaiwai on Sun 2nd May 2010 04:26 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, it cracks me up every time. This "personal ethics" nonsense is really getting in a way of honest american capitalism.


If you weren't so lazy at reading you would notice I put 'good' and 'evil' in quotations deliberately given how subjective those concepts actually are. I was attacking the so-called 'good' and 'evil' of a company given that such terms are subjective and based on ones own benefit or harm done by such actions. In the case of h264, what some people call evil others would say that it is decisive leadership to finally decide to standardise on single CODEC instead of the spaghetti soup that exists.

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