Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Apr 2010 21:40 UTC, submitted by Helge
Legal Well, this certainly explains a whole lot. Both Apple and Microsoft have stated that the legality of Theora is highly debatable, and as it turns out, they knew more than we do - most likely courtesy of their close involvement with the MPEG-LA. Responding to an email from Free Software Foundation Europe activist Hugo Roy, Steve Jobs has stated that a patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora. Update: Monty Montgomery of Xiph (Ogg and Theora's parent organisation) has responded on Slashdot: "If Jobs's email is genuine, this is a powerful public gaffe ('All video codecs are covered by patents'). He'd be confirming MPEG's assertion in plain language anyone can understand. It would only strengthen the pushback against software patents and add to Apple's increasing PR mess. Macbooks and iPads may be pretty sweet, but creative individuals don't really like to give their business to jackbooted thugs."
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RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents
by tylerdurden on Sat 1st May 2010 16:19 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: arggh, f*ck patents"
tylerdurden
Member since:
2009-03-17

LOL, going from Apple to Microsoft... it is like telling people that if it gets too hot in the frying pan they could always jump into the flames.

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RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents
by vivainio on Sat 1st May 2010 16:30 in reply to "RE[6]: arggh, f*ck patents"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

LOL, going from Apple to Microsoft... it is like telling people that if it gets too hot in the frying pan they could always jump into the flames.


Yeah, flames tend to be more benign than heated metal.

Microsoft attempted to make the world their walled garden (win32 api, ActiveX, Palladium, Silverlight) and failed. There is no indication that they will succeed now where they failed earlier. They are also being closely watched for anti-competitive behavior.

While the beast has not been completely tamed, Microsoft is currently less dangerous than Apple. Not because they lack power, but because they can't be quite as ruthless as a corporation as Apple is currently (and Apple gets applauded for that by their fan base, while Microsoft never really had a fan base to begin with).

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RE[8]: arggh, f*ck patents
by darknexus on Sat 1st May 2010 16:54 in reply to "RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Yeah, flames tend to be more benign than heated metal.


Well, if you mean you'd burn to ashes faster and therefore experience less pain, then sure.

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RE[8]: arggh, f*ck patents
by boldingd on Mon 3rd May 2010 20:26 in reply to "RE[7]: arggh, f*ck patents"
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2009-02-19

Well, Microsoft does have a few fans, to be sure, but not a lot. Not like Apple.

That, to me, is an interesting observation. It probably derives from the fact that Microsoft marketed Windows as an extremely useful tool, whereas Apple have marketed OS X (and their other products) as a (hip) lifestyle. Nobody gets excited about practical tools; people love to be hip. Apple's fans then think in terms of a life-style and social group, rather than evaluating Apple products as tools. It circumvents rational cost/benefit analysis and taps into human social wiring (like group loyalty, or the desire to defend your group from external assault).

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