Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 1st May 2010 22:17 UTC
Legal We've all heard how the h.264 is rolled over on patents and royalties. Even with these facts, I kept supporting the best-performing "delivery" codec in the market, which is h.264. "Let the best win", I kept thinking. But it wasn't until very recently when I was made aware that the problem is way deeper. No, my friends. It's not just a matter of just "picking Theora" to export a video to Youtube and be clear of any litigation. MPEG-LA's trick runs way deeper! The [street-smart] people at MPEG-LA have made sure that from the moment we use a camera or camcorder to shoot an mpeg2 (e.g. HDV cams) or h.264 video (e.g. digicams, HD dSLRs, AVCHD cams), we owe them royalties, even if the final video distributed was not encoded using their codecs! Let me show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

UPDATE: Engadget just wrote a reply to this article. The article says that you don't need an extra license to shoot commercial video with h.264 cameras, but I wonder why the license says otherwise, and Engadget's "quotes" of user/filmmaker indemnification by MPEG-LA are anonymous...

UPDATE 2: Engadget's editor replied to me. So according to him, the quotes are not anonymous, but organization-wide on purpose. If that's the case, I guess this concludes that. And I can take them on their word from now on.

UPDATE 3: And regarding royalties (as opposed to just licensing), one more reply by Engadget's editor.

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RE: OSNews
by Kroc on Sat 1st May 2010 23:42 UTC in reply to "OSNews"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

There’s a Silverlight OGG player. Safari will play OGG if you have Xiph QT component installed. Oh and there’s a cortado Java OGG player.

There’s ways. Just not very pretty ones. *shrug*

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RE[2]: OSNews
by DigitalAxis on Sun 2nd May 2010 10:32 in reply to "RE: OSNews"
DigitalAxis Member since:
2005-08-28

Yeah, but if Monty from Xiph is correct in his analysis of Steve Jobs' email, MPEG-LA is claiming that ALL video codecs infringe on their patents, Ogg/Theora included.

The issue then becomes what to do about a consortium you cannot legally compete with (as Monty says), but that's a case for the courts provided you can make them understand and care. Ultimately, I suspect that'd be Patentmageddon, which MPEG-LA hopefully wouldn't survive, and thus they would never actually instigate.

Edited 2010-05-02 10:33 UTC

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RE[2]: OSNews
by lemur2 on Sun 2nd May 2010 10:38 in reply to "RE: OSNews"
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2007-02-17

There’s a Silverlight OGG player. Safari will play OGG if you have Xiph QT component installed. Oh and there’s a cortado Java OGG player.

There’s ways. Just not very pretty ones. *shrug*


Google Chrome Frame is perhaps also worth a mention in this context.

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RE[3]: OSNews
by henderson101 on Sun 2nd May 2010 19:03 in reply to "RE[2]: OSNews"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Krocs Mac OS X discussion deleted

Google Chrome Frame is perhaps also worth a mention in this context.


let's see.... "Google Chrome Frame is a free open sourced plugin for Internet Explorer..." no, no relevance what so ever to Mac OS X.

Edit : added clarity with Kroc ref.

Edited 2010-05-02 19:17 UTC

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