Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd May 2010 17:56 UTC
Multimedia, AV Are you guys sick of the H264 debate already? Yes? Too bad, because we've got more. Microsoft's decision late last week to restrict Internet Explorer 9 to H264 was met with a rather immense amount of criticism, so the company decided to publish a new blog post responding to some of that criticism. While Microsoft makes a few good points, the overall feeling is still that of 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt'.
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Comment by Parry Hotter
by Parry Hotter on Mon 3rd May 2010 19:47 UTC
Parry Hotter
Member since:
2007-07-20

Among all this "uncertainty", one thing's for sure; I'm posting Theora vids from now on. IE9 users can watch them the best they can. Tough luck.

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RE: Comment by Parry Hotter
by bousozoku on Mon 3rd May 2010 21:16 in reply to "Comment by Parry Hotter"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

Among all this "uncertainty", one thing's for sure; I'm posting Theora vids from now on. IE9 users can watch them the best they can. Tough luck.


Yes, threaten people by posting videos in a format they can't watch. What's the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face"? If almost no one notices, you'll be fighting a battle and causing yourself to lose it.

Does it make sense to have one video codec? No. Is HTML 5 set in stone and everyone in compliance? No.

Microsoft could have pushed their own bits instead of H.264, but they wanted to be compliant with most of what will be out there. Would it hurt them to support more? Probably, since they have all these different versions of things inside their browser. It's not as though they're going HTML 5 only.

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RE[2]: Comment by Parry Hotter
by WorknMan on Mon 3rd May 2010 21:41 in reply to "RE: Comment by Parry Hotter"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Yeah, I'm just happy that I don't have to install 4 different apps anymore to make video work on the web. As long as I can click a link and have the video play, I don't care what codec it uses. Hell, I might even be willing to pay a little just to have that functionality if I had to. I don't expect to have every single program on my PC cost $0.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yes, threaten people by posting videos in a format they can't watch.


Err, HTML5/Theora has far bigger audience than HTML/H264. Theora is supported by ~35% of the market (Firefox, Opera, Chrome), while H264 covers about ~8% (Safari, Chrome).

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Parry Hotter Member since:
2007-07-20

Yes, threaten people by posting videos in a format they can't watch. What's the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face"? If almost no one notices, you'll be fighting a battle and causing yourself to lose it.

Threaten? No, it's a promise, there is no choice involved here. Almost no one will notice? Well, at least everyone running IE9 will notice. I'm sure they are resourceful enough to dig up some tool to watch my vids if they really want to.

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