Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd May 2010 22:04 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Remember how Mark Shuttleworth justified moving the window titlebar widgets to the left by claiming the space freed up on the right side could now be used for something else? On his blog, Shuttleworth unveiled what, exactly, Ubuntu's plans are: window indicators, or 'windicators'. In a nutshell, it comes down to having a tray area in every window.
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Sometimes, less is less
by Almafeta on Mon 3rd May 2010 22:48 UTC
Almafeta
Member since:
2007-02-22

Move menus to the title bar: Okay. Non-standard, but not terrible. When you get to the point where you don't have enough horizontal space for the title/handle and all the icons, what happens?

Use icons instead of text labels: Great as long as you don't have any verbs in your program for which there's no universally agreed-upon image.

Replace status bars with pop-ups that obscure what you're working on: You have got to be kidding me.

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RE: Sometimes, less is less
by siride on Mon 3rd May 2010 23:11 in reply to "Sometimes, less is less"
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Fewer pop-ups is what we need, not more. One thing I hate about Windows, or at least the Windows program culture, is pop-up balloons and message boxes. All these do is distract you and rarely provide useful information or effective program interaction. And since Windows is really terrible about focus stealing, these usually end up resulting in accidental actions in the pop up windows, such as hitting OK to dismiss an important error or warning message, or entering text in a new IM window (and thus not for the intended recipient).

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

There are just as many on linux (at least in gnome). The only mainstream OS I know of that doesn't have them out of the box is OSX, and even then, the first thing many osx users do is install growl, which is a framework to provide those notification popups.

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killasmurf86 Member since:
2010-04-27

oh, yee,
on Sabayon linux, KDE is awefull so many stupid baloons..... it just pisses me off


Thank god I use FreeBSD on my desktop PC with custom DE

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RE: Sometimes, less is less
by phoenix on Mon 3rd May 2010 23:30 in reply to "Sometimes, less is less"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Replace status bars with pop-ups that obscure what you're working on: You have got to be kidding me.


I would absolutely love it if all the drop-down/pop-up overlays in web browsers would slide over the contents of the page, instead of moving everything up/down the screen. This is the worst feature in Firefox.

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RE: Sometimes, less is less
by sorpigal on Tue 4th May 2010 01:55 in reply to "Sometimes, less is less"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

Use icons instead of text labels: Great as long as you don't have any verbs in your program for which there's no universally agreed-upon image.


This is a lesson that Apple quietly learned. Once upon a time they were very pro-icon, but have gradually dialed it back. There's a good reason for this: icons are meaningless unless you have the meaning memorized. Few people can memorize very many icons and certainly not for any complicated idea.

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RE: Sometimes, less is less
by AdamW on Tue 4th May 2010 03:39 in reply to "Sometimes, less is less"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

"Use icons instead of text labels: Great as long as you don't have any verbs in your program for which there's no universally agreed-upon image."

Yeah, this is a horrible idea. I've actually gone exactly the other way, ever since someone put a neat blog post on planet GNOME a few years back which illustrated the possibility - disable icons entirely and _only_ use text labels. It makes rendering interfaces faster, and it's a hell of a lot easier than trying to remember that $RANDOM_DEVELOPER's vaguely dodo-looking hieroglyph actually means 'premuntificate' or whatever.

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RE: Sometimes, less is less
by shotsman on Tue 4th May 2010 06:12 in reply to "Sometimes, less is less"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

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Replace status bars with pop-ups that obscure what you're working on: You have got to be kidding me.
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Exactly. My take on this is that it is a precursor to Canonical introducing Adverts everywhere. Why else would you use pop-up's for everything that is currently handled in such a discrete way.

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