Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th May 2010 12:40 UTC
Legal All the way back in 2007 (The Year Gilmore Girls ended), a company called IP Innovation sued Red Hat and Novell over a patent related to the concept of virtual desktops. It seems like common sense hasn't been drained entirely from the US justice system, since yesterday, the courts declared said patent invalid.
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RE[4]: Nice to see
by r_a_trip on Tue 4th May 2010 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Nice to see"
r_a_trip
Member since:
2005-07-06

Could it be willed? Say a man creates something an it turns out to be fairly lucrative and wants his children to benefit from it when he dies...

No absolutely not! If I die my relatives get what an average wage slave can gather during his life and my employer will not keep paying wages post mortem to my relatives.

Creative protection should lapse within a lifetime. Not the crazy system we have now.

It is absolutely ludicrous that someone with a copyright can get filthy rich of his copyrights and then give his children and grand children another seventy years to milk the same copyrights after his death and get the aforementioned fortune as well. No other field has this kind of everlasting money scheme.

You want a limited monopoly? Get of your ass and produce till you die and no royalty surfing far after your flesh has become plant fertilizer.

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RE[5]: Nice to see
by Tuishimi on Tue 4th May 2010 19:36 in reply to "RE[4]: Nice to see"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

So if I come up with an idea that becomes quite popular I and my offspring should not reap the benefits? No. Don't think so. An idea is a man's work. I agree there should be some sort of limitations but I think they should be graduated.

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RE[6]: Nice to see
by TechGeek on Tue 4th May 2010 19:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Nice to see"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Well, I think even in the original terms of copyright, there was a minimum time frame for collecting royalties. But that should be set up through your estate. So even then it really is transferring ownership, its just your not alive any more to collect. But our society isn't really interested in fair, only whats in it for "me".

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RE[6]: Nice to see
by darknexus on Wed 5th May 2010 13:43 in reply to "RE[5]: Nice to see"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

So if I come up with an idea that becomes quite popular I and my offspring should not reap the benefits? No. Don't think so. An idea is a man's work. I agree there should be some sort of limitations but I think they should be graduated.

Here's the thing in this situation. *You* came up with the idea, not your offspring. You should be able to reap the rewards, yes, and you can will to your offspring however much of that you wish. But your offspring, who did not create the idea, should absolutely not be able to reap rewards, on their own, of an idea they themselves had nothing to do with. They don't deserve a monopoly on the idea, perhaps you did but they do not. We're not talking about sales of property, we're talking about limited monopolies on ideas. It's one thing if you create something and your offspring continue to keep a business selling whatever it is. They deserve their income from their own continuing business. But they should never be able to sit back and profit from royalties of your idea once you're gone. While you're alive, give them however much of it you want, that's your own business.

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RE[5]: Nice to see
by evangs on Tue 4th May 2010 20:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Nice to see"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

If I build a house, can I leave it to my offspring when I die?
If I paint a picture, can I leave it to my offspring when I die?
Yet if I write a song, a book, or any one of these new fangled "intellectual property" things they should go into the public domain when I die?

Unless you're going for a complete reform of inheritance law, what you're advocating has some rather glaring discrepancies. That way, everything you own enters the public domain when you die and you can leave nothing to your heirs.

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RE[6]: Nice to see
by JLF65 on Tue 4th May 2010 21:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Nice to see"
JLF65 Member since:
2005-07-06

If I build a house, can I leave it to my offspring when I die?
If I paint a picture, can I leave it to my offspring when I die?
Yet if I write a song, a book, or any one of these new fangled "intellectual property" things they should go into the public domain when I die?

Unless you're going for a complete reform of inheritance law, what you're advocating has some rather glaring discrepancies. That way, everything you own enters the public domain when you die and you can leave nothing to your heirs.


You're making the usual incorrect comparison between tangible items of limited availability and intangible items of unlimited availability.

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RE[6]: Nice to see
by Lanadapter on Tue 4th May 2010 21:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Nice to see"
Lanadapter Member since:
2009-10-01

The difference is that it's a monopoly and not property being discussed here.

Having restrictions on whether on not you can make your own copies of (insert thing here) is unjust and should only be for very limited times, not life plus seventy years.

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