Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 6th May 2010 07:54 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems In 2009 ARM showed off prototype netbooks "capable of driving HD content, can surf the web for 8 hours, and will cost round and about 250 USD". Yet still, none have made it to the market. Why do you think this is so? Because ARM signed a deal with Adobe in 2008 to bring Flash and AIR to the ARM architecture, a promise they will finally deliver later this year. And you wonder why Apple won't have Flash on the iPhone when it can hold back an entire product category for two years.
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jabjoe
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2009-05-06

No, I find myself with Kroc/Thorn on this. I'm probably not the only one surprised how successful the iPhone has been despite not having Flash. Not having Flash is something I hear technical iPhone users complain about. Normal users don't even know the name of what they are complaining about. There is no way Adobe, or anyone else (MS I see you and Siverlight), should have this hold on what devices are used to access the internet.

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fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

We don't really like Flash on osnews, none of us do. But neither do we like being told what to think, or see some company with a hidden agenda limit our choices just to increase their own market share and profitability.

That being said, if you had been following the debate you would know that Kroc and Thom don't agree at all (which is a good thing, I mean, we don't want OSnews to become another iNgadget). Unfortunately, they are also becoming a little predictive, which was the point of my post ;)

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jabjoe Member since:
2009-05-06

Yer, I free admit I wasn't noting who wrote what and only noticed the anti-Flash bias. ;-)

I assume you mean Apple by "But neither do we like being told what to think, or see some company with a hidden agenda limit our choices just to increase their own market share and profitability."

I don't think ARM are doing an Apple. They are just saying Flash is a problem for them getting devices to market, and I think that probably is true. A iPhone might be able to get away with it because it's not just a web browser, but devices that are mainly web devices would seam pretty rubbish if they can't access big chunks of the web.

I disagree with Apple on many many things, but not being pro-Flash isn't one of them. Them claiming it's about freedom then being pro-h264, and further locking down the iStore, is just a little hard to swallow though.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Not having Flash is something I hear technical iPhone users complain about. Normal users don't even know the name of what they are complaining about.


That's not a fair comparison because they are being sold a phone and do not expect the full functionality of a computer. They also have access to the itunes store which provides them with video rentals. The vast majority of streaming rental services on the web use Flash.

Place a user that browses the news in front of a netbook without Flash and that user will be annoyed. Being unable to watch news videos will be viewed as a limitation, not a feature.

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