Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 9th Oct 2005 20:24 UTC, submitted by Ben Jao Ming
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RE: I bought it and tried it and...
by dadeisvenm on Mon 10th Oct 2005 20:52
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RE[2]: I bought it and tried it and...
by lemmy on Tue 11th Oct 2005 21:36
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the open version suits me even less than the boxed 10.0... the fact that i could compile and build packages of everything i need myself doesnt necessarily mean that i WANT to, or in this case, would want to be FORCED to.
if that'd be the case, i'd be running gentoo, or a LFS.
I Stuck with suse for over 10 years because it came really close to the system i want to run. but by now, the gap becomes wider and wider but not because changes in my requirements but because of how suse linux has changed over the last few years.
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am most likely going to send it back to suses online shop.
the strong points of this release have been mentioned elsewhere already, so i'll just list my reasons why i am less than satisfied (or rather, why i think suse 10.0 sucks greeen chameleon cheese):
1. less content for the same money (5 CDS, 1 DVD with 32bit and 64bit binary rpms, NO dvd with source rpm packages as suse used to ship)
2. even less content for still the same money (only one little piece of printed documentation, and thats just a summary of whan we were used to get as the "suse user guide", no printed admin handbook, no printed "new in this version" handbook)
2. too many changes that are IMO changes for the worse, for example SKIM instead of the usual kinput2 approach if you wanna go multilanguage (ok, the principle behind skim makes the choice obvious... if it would work. you're supposed to choose a primary and any number of secondary languages during installation, and then you can change the input method according to all those languages... but no matter what i do, the skim context menu stays empty, where it should list all the available input methods.)
3. many packages that i upgraded myself by making my own rpm packages are still old versions on 10.0 but for unknown reasons they shuffled the package names around a lot, so i'd have to rebuild all those packages myself just for suse's benefit... and with no source rpms for their stuff, this can be fishy in some cases.
4. they not only don't include the sources anymore, they ask for 15€ for a sources DVD, or point to the mirrors of their ftp, which in the most cases haven't synced all the sources yet (which stinks).
summary: i yet have to see something in suse 10.0 that is good and new enough for me to indulge myself in all the pain that it'll take to bring a suse 10.0 installation to where i can be with a fresh 9.2 install by just adding a bunch of installation sources from my fileserver and click on "update system" in yast2. Besides, one of my main points in buying a packaged linux was always the good printed documentation that suse used to ship with its "professional" version. But IMO this 10.0 is not even a "personal" version; its more like a "don't bother us, go away" version...