Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th May 2010 14:55 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless When Apple sued HTC, and targeted Android specifically (news which came out of the blue), many people, including myself, were convinced this was Apple letting the world know they were afraid of Android's rising popularity. This notion was laughed away by many an Apple fan, but it turns out that this is most likely far closer to reality than many dare to admit: in the first quarter of 2010, Android conquered the number two market share spot from the iPhone in the US - and by a wide margin too. Update: Added a graph which better shows the trend.
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Devious
by Fettarme H-Milch on Mon 10th May 2010 15:48 UTC
Fettarme H-Milch
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2010-02-16

Once again it's so amusing seeing the double standards here.
Let's recap:

a.) AVC/h.264 is bad, because it's patented in some parts of the world.

b.) Novell is bad, because it entered a cross-licensing deal for patents with Microsoft.

c.) Android is covered by patents owned by Microsoft and HTC licensed them from MS. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/apr10/04-27mshtcpr.ms...
But hey, somehow nobody cares about this.

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RE: Devious
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 10th May 2010 15:54 in reply to "Devious"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

a.) AVC/h.264 is bad, because it's patented in some parts of the world.


H264 is bad because it shackles the web to a proprietary standard, which will hurt innovation and the little guy on the web, while also opening the door to litigation.

b.) Novell is bad, because it entered a cross-licensing deal for patents with Microsoft.


It's not the deal itself people get angry about - it's the fac tthat despite years of empty threats, we still have not one single shred of proof regarding these so-called patents.

c.) Android is covered by patents owned by Microsoft and HTC licensed them from MS.


Uhm, we don't know that. HTC might simply be brushing MS off because it is busy enough dealing with Apple. Again, we have no clue as to WHAT Android is supposedly infringing upon. Show us the proof - Microsoft has been remarkably reluctant to do so, which raises a lot of flags.

If Microsoft really were certain about its patents being infringed upon, it would have no qualms about showing us the patents in question. Right now, it reeks of FUD.

Edited 2010-05-10 15:56 UTC

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RE[2]: Devious
by Fettarme H-Milch on Mon 10th May 2010 16:14 in reply to "RE: Devious"
Fettarme H-Milch Member since:
2010-02-16

H264 is bad because it shackles the web to a proprietary standard, which will hurt innovation and the little guy on the web, while also opening the door to litigation.

MPEG-LA clearly states on the AVC licensing page of their website that only commercially acting enterprises with more than 100,000 customers per year are required to pay licensing fees. All others are free to go.

There is no such clause regarding Android patents by MS.

I tell you who "the little guy" is: It's not someone with more than 100,000 customers per year. It's the self-employed guy who owns a small phone shop and who's now in constant threat to be sued by Microsoft when he sells Android phones that are not from HTC -- no matter if he has less or more than 100,000 customers.

If Microsoft really were certain about its patents being infringed upon, it would have no qualms about showing us the patents in question.

MS showed the affected patents to HTC. If those weren't valid, HTC would not signed the deal. In fact in a potential battle against Microsoft, HTC would have the upper hand: HTC is the biggest manufacturer of Windows Mobile phones.
If HTC was to drop its complete Windows Mobile lineup, Windows Phone 7 would be dead before it even launched. MS would be wiped off the handheld map.

BTW: Did you even ask Microsoft which patents are the cause of the licensing deal? Or are you just making it up that "Microsoft has been remarkably reluctant to show us proof"?

Microsoft has an entire website dedicated to patent licensing, along with a contact e-mail address:
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/intellectualproperty/ipl...

Edited 2010-05-10 16:24 UTC

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