Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th May 2010 14:55 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless When Apple sued HTC, and targeted Android specifically (news which came out of the blue), many people, including myself, were convinced this was Apple letting the world know they were afraid of Android's rising popularity. This notion was laughed away by many an Apple fan, but it turns out that this is most likely far closer to reality than many dare to admit: in the first quarter of 2010, Android conquered the number two market share spot from the iPhone in the US - and by a wide margin too. Update: Added a graph which better shows the trend.
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RE[3]: Devious
by JAlexoid on Mon 10th May 2010 20:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Devious"
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

HTC is the biggest manufacturer of Windows Mobile phones.


And they are not stupid enough to drop that valuable segment. Plain and simple.

BTW: Did you even ask Microsoft which patents are the cause of the licensing deal?


OSNews probably did not, but CNet did. And the patents remain undisclosed.

Or are you just making it up that "Microsoft has been remarkably reluctant to show us proof"?


Oh, you must be unaware of the claims from Microsoft that Linux infrindes on over 200 patents?

Microsoft has an entire website dedicated to patent licensing, along with a contact e-mail address:
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/intellectualproperty/ipl...


The only actual publicly disclosed agreement on IP is with Novell. So read the page before you refer to it, please. The only place where HTC appears is "Exchange ActiveSync Protocol Licensees"

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RE[4]: Devious
by Fettarme H-Milch on Mon 10th May 2010 21:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Devious"
Fettarme H-Milch Member since:
2010-02-16

Oh, you must be unaware of the claims from Microsoft that Linux infrindes on over 200 patents?

That has nothing to do with the concrete licensing deal that was signed with HTC.

HTC and MS signed a deal about Andoid patents which confirms that Android uses techniques that are patented by MS or HTC wouldn't have signed it. MS would've not taken such steps that annoy its biggest licensee of Windows Mobile -- Motorola would be a good target for a PR stunt. Motorola only sells Android phones and is way to poor for a long-running lawsuit.

But that actually not the point. The point is that Android is defended by you guys (as you just proved). You just stick you head in the sand and pretend no patent is valid.
OTOH you guys have no problem bashing AVC based on misinformation. The AVC licensing terms on the MPEG-LA website are very clear that no "little guys" are even required to pay fees as aren't low volume businesses with less than 100,000 paying customers per year.

As a side, note unlike Android, MeeGo is actually safe from patent threats. Intel and Nokia both guaranty that they will defend any MeeGo adopter who is being threatened. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/04/meego_linux_mobile_android_...

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RE[5]: Devious
by JAlexoid on Thu 13th May 2010 14:05 in reply to "RE[4]: Devious"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

You just stick you head in the sand and pretend no patent is valid.

A) Me personally, and a lot of people are against software patents in general. Most Linux advocates actually take the same side. So, no I don't stick my head in the sand, I actively fight to keep software patents out of my country and EU(even when it goes against my employer's wishes). (See http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ and http://en.swpat.org/)
B) Android was never THE SOURCE of patents, MPEG-LA is a SOURCE. I.e Android does not own any patents**. MPEG-LA does not technically own patents, but MPEG-LA is an association. So when we "bash" MPEG-LA, we bash the whole collection of companies for supporting patents and patenting more software stuff.
C) If you actually read the text above, there is nothing hypocritical about being anti-software-patent overall.

*-you may replace "we" to "I" in the text...
**- if Android does, then please enlighten us.

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