Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th May 2010 10:45 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless While most of us here on the OSNews team are proponents of HTML5, we're all fully aware that Flash serves an important role on the web today, and will most likely continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Flash has a rather spotty record when it comes to performance, and so far, hasn't been able to run well on mobile devices. It seems this is about to change, as an Adobe evangelist has showed off Flash 10.1 on Android 2.2 (Froyo) running on the Nexus One. And eerlijk is eerlijk, it looks pretty darn impressive, especially considering how far they've come.
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REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

if we are talking about flash in the sense of video playback, i.e. youtube style, then flash will easily put my browser at about 110% (it's dual core), HTML5 on youtube will put my browser at about 40%.

This is a snow leopard machine, 2GB RAM 1.83GHZ Core Duo Processor 10.6.3 and Safari.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Wait until you have hardware acceleration. Flash 10.1 on Windows drops to like 10-15%.

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l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

I know it's pointless, but I still checked it on an old pentium m@1.8ghz laptop I still have laying around, with multiple youtube videos, cpu was between 25-40% (debian testing, firefox 3.6.4, flash 10,0,32,18). I knew good old ibm thinkpads haven't lost their touch ;)

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

This just in: Over-engineered eye-candy websites use a lot of CPU. Full story at 10.

Abusing HTML/CSS/JS is just as bad as abusing Flash. The main difference is that a) it’s _really_ easy to do with Flash, and difficult to do with HTML and b) anybody can help improve Gecko/Webkit to fix performance, but only Adobe can fix Flash.

I made this quote a while ago, and I’m going to stick to it: http://camendesign.com/quote/flash-push

It’s good that Flash is improving, but it is in no way beneficial to the long term survival of the web. No web technology should depend on one company’s profit margins and what platforms they decide to support or not.

Edited 2010-05-11 11:19 UTC

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

This just in: Over-engineered eye-candy websites use a lot of CPU. Full story at 10.


Haha, if Flash is coming to Android, I hope somebody develops a flashblock plugin too. I don't want this shit on my desktop, and damn sure don't want it on my phone.

Hey Thom, how do you know it's any better on security? I'll let you install it so if somebody's phone gets rooted because of a Flash vulnerability, it won't be mine ;)

Edited 2010-05-11 11:38 UTC

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Correction: Flash is beneficial in the sense that it prioritises what features browsers are going to have to add in order to ultimately replace Flash. HTML still requires _massive_ improvement to Video/Audio as well as the addition of webcam/microphone support &c.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

There is this assumption that javascript + canvas or svg is more efficient then flash, and that is totally wrong. If you want to do animations on the web, flash still wipes the floor with everything else that is out there.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I don't know about the difficulty in abusing javascript. Its pretty dang easy. Just create an infinite ( or near infinite) loop. Been a while since I did that accidentally, but it used to kill IE, firefox, opera. If javascript is given its own separate thread than the browser gui, then it sort of goes away.

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