Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th May 2010 13:48 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris If there's one Linux company that has seen lots of ups and downs it's the Paris-based Mandriva S.A. They have a great distribution, but as a company, they've always been on shaky grounds. First a rumour, now confirmed: the company has put itself up for sale - which, as the community points out, isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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RE[4]: Comment by emilsedgh
by Manish on Wed 12th May 2010 08:39 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by emilsedgh"
Manish
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2009-12-18


Wrong, wrong, wrong! His comment shouts ignorance? Read yours man!


Yes. It does shout ignorance. He said Ubuntu works on marketing. Marketing is one aspect of the whole thing.


Do you even know there are other distros? Have you ever tried something else? Ubuntu is a Linux distribution among many others.


Everyone knows there are other distros. Nothing special. Yeah. I have tried all major *desktop* distros. Before I jumped to Ubuntu, there was Fedora and OpenSuse, both backed by big companies and none of them tried to convert people to Linux. All they did was snatching users from one camp to another.


It was only after Ubuntu came into prominence, that many people tasted Linux. Most(90%) of the new converts I have seen are Ubuntu users.

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RE[5]: Comment by emilsedgh
by spiderman on Wed 12th May 2010 09:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by emilsedgh"
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2008-10-23

It was only after Ubuntu came into prominence, that many people tasted Linux. Most(90%) of the new converts I have seen are Ubuntu users.

And that is because they don't know Mandriva, precisely because of Marketing (or lack of). No ship-it program and less marketing power.

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RE[6]: Comment by emilsedgh
by Manish on Wed 12th May 2010 09:29 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by emilsedgh"
Manish Member since:
2009-12-18


And that is because they don't know Mandriva, precisely because of Marketing (or lack of). No ship-it program and less marketing power.


You got the point. Marketing is also a important thing. Unless people know what you are making, it's useless. A strong community is also very important. Not only strong, but also very tolerant community.

Anyway Ubuntu brings many users to Linux, more users, more crashes, more bug reports, more bug fixing. Isn't it? Well it's an irony that Launchpad has too many bugs which they need to triag before it becomes unmanageable. Another aspect of that huge unattended bug list is that there are more users than contributors which is sharp contrast to the traditional model of Linux.

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RE[6]: Comment by emilsedgh
by Manish on Wed 12th May 2010 13:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by emilsedgh"
Manish Member since:
2009-12-18


And that is because they don't know Mandriva, precisely because of Marketing (or lack of). No ship-it program and less marketing power.


Precisely. So what's the problem? We were discussing whether Ubuntu contributes or just does marketing.

Lesson learnt: Do enough marketing. Shipit is just a part of marketing.

Anyway we moved off-topic. We were discussing why Ubuntu does not contribute rather than who has more money.

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RE[5]: Comment by emilsedgh
by segedunum on Thu 13th May 2010 01:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by emilsedgh"
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2005-07-06

Yes. It does shout ignorance. He said Ubuntu works on marketing. Marketing is one aspect of the whole thing.

Ubuntu started shipping free CDs. That is the extent to which their marketing went and that's what kickstarted their DistroWatch popularity. Nothing more.

Everyone knows there are other distros. Nothing special. Yeah. I have tried all major *desktop* distros. Before I jumped to Ubuntu, there was Fedora and OpenSuse, both backed by big companies and none of them tried to convert people to Linux. All they did was snatching users from one camp to another.

You can repeat that as many times as you want but the fact is that Ubuntu is doing absolutely nothing that other distributions aren't doing either technically or organisationally. If you can point out what those things are then fine, but you won't be able to because these conversations have been had before. The extent of Ubuntu's differences is switching the window controls around.

Oh, and that 'convert people to Linux' statement is utter undefinable crap.

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