Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th May 2010 01:20 UTC, submitted by historyb
Gnome "The release of GNOME 3.0. the popular desktop's first major release in eight years, promises to be the major free software event in autumn 2010. Where is GNOME now? What can we expect of GNOME 3.0? Of GNOME 3 as a series of releases?"
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Another 8 Years?
by dc.ricardo on Thu 13th May 2010 02:06 UTC
dc.ricardo
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2009-06-02

With the Internet, Cloud and Sync anything anywhere going on, I don't see people caring too much about the OS. If there is something available (and good) to connect them to whatever service they use, it's ok. But yet a paradox! If the OS is abstracting why we are being presented to WebOS, Android, Maemo and so on (on an interface basis)?

Whatever you say, another 8 years and Gnome will not survive. And it's not what I personally would like to see. What about you?

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RE: Another 8 Years?
by bousozoku on Thu 13th May 2010 04:35 in reply to "Another 8 Years?"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23


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Whatever you say, another 8 years and Gnome will not survive. And it's not what I personally would like to see. What about you?


If they don't want a revolution, they need to evolve GNOME more quickly and not wait for moss to grow.

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RE: Another 8 Years?
by historyb on Thu 13th May 2010 04:37 in reply to "Another 8 Years?"
historyb Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't think it will be another 8 years and the article seems to indicate that they are beginning to think beyond Gnome 3.

I think all the webOS cloud stuff is a fad, things change fast that I think by next year there will be something newer or "better". So I think Gnome and KDE will be around

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by kaiwai on Thu 13th May 2010 04:53 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't think it will be another 8 years and the article seems to indicate that they are beginning to think beyond Gnome 3.

I think all the webOS cloud stuff is a fad, things change fast that I think by next year there will be something newer or "better". So I think Gnome and KDE will be around


Or more correctly, the cloud stuff will be yet another thing people can choose from next to hand held devices, laptops, desktops, servers and mainframes. With each new technology doesn't necessarily point to the demise of an old one. Today Laptops are outselling desktops but that doesn't mean that desktops are disappearing. There is a growth in smart phones but that doesn't mean basic phones are dying either.

Unfortunately some in the technology world assume with the rise of a new technology that an old one dies when in many cases it simply compliments an existing one. In the case of cloud computing it will compliment an organisations existing setup rather than replace it, just as web services integrate in with Microsoft Office but doesn't replace it fully either.

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RE: Another 8 Years?
by alcibiades on Thu 13th May 2010 09:06 in reply to "Another 8 Years?"
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2005-10-12

Dunno, I moved to Fluxbox a while ago now. The problem, if you look at the videos around of how multiple desktops in Gnome are supposed to evolve, is that they seem to be following KDE down the black hole of unusability by ordinary people. So what do we do for them?

Right now, KDE is out of the question. Gnome, you can set it up with only one bottom taskbar, app minimizer pane in it, desktops, app icons, and people adapt to it and use it pretty easily. They really like multiple desktops when they get used to them.

If you look at the movie on the net someplace - its featured on LXer, how multiple desktops are supposed to work in future -- and ask yourself how on earth you're going to explain to ordinary people how to use this thing, its hopeless. Or indeed, how on earth I am going to use this thing myself?

Gnome and KDE both seem to have forgotten how to ask the question: what is this for? Its not just to make the developers feel exciting and creative.

Lets hope the virus does not spread to xfce!

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by WereCatf on Thu 13th May 2010 10:35 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
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2006-02-15

If you look at the movie on the net someplace - its featured on LXer, how multiple desktops are supposed to work in future -- and ask yourself how on earth you're going to explain to ordinary people how to use this thing, its hopeless. Or indeed, how on earth I am going to use this thing myself?

I just tried Gnome-Shell out and well... It really is dead-simple to instantly grasp the idea and actually using those workspaces is so simple you really couldn't make it much easier. As such, I'd say they did reach their goal: make it easy to use workspaces without forcing you to use them.

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by siride on Fri 14th May 2010 15:17 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
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2006-01-02

What's so unusable about KDE?

And developers *are* important. If they don't develop software for your platform, nobody will use your platform (since people use software and not platforms). You have to get developers excited, as well as users.

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RE: Another 8 Years?
by Laurence on Thu 13th May 2010 09:09 in reply to "Another 8 Years?"
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2007-03-26

With the Internet, Cloud and Sync anything anywhere going on, I don't see people caring too much about the OS.


Windows 7 sales figures would seem to contradict that opinion.

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by dc.ricardo on Thu 13th May 2010 21:14 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
dc.ricardo Member since:
2009-06-02

"With the Internet, Cloud and Sync anything anywhere going on, I don't see people caring too much about the OS.


Windows 7 sales figures would seem to contradict that opinion.
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Sales ou Pre-Installed? Choice or "Take it!"?

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RE: Another 8 Years?
by segedunum on Thu 13th May 2010 11:15 in reply to "Another 8 Years?"
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2005-07-06

With the Internet, Cloud and Sync anything anywhere going on, I don't see people caring too much about the OS.

So what do you use locally to access all of these services?

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by qroon on Thu 13th May 2010 11:22 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
qroon Member since:
2005-10-21

Maybe he will use plain X and launch the browser from Xterm. ;)

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RE[2]: Another 8 Years?
by dc.ricardo on Thu 13th May 2010 21:04 in reply to "RE: Another 8 Years?"
dc.ricardo Member since:
2009-06-02

"With the Internet, Cloud and Sync anything anywhere going on, I don't see people caring too much about the OS.

So what do you use locally to access all of these services?
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A web browser that runs on Windows 7, Ubuntu, Symbian and Windows XP (in any order).

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