Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th May 2010 15:41 UTC
Microsoft The Microsoft empire is built upon two pillars: the Windows operating system, and Microsoft Office. Windows 7 made its way unto the scene last year, and now it's time to work on the other pillar. Today, Microsoft officially launched Microsoft Office 2010 and SharePoint 2010. Regular customers will be able to purchase the new versions next month, starting at 119 USD.
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lemur2
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2007-02-17

New features crammed into it were hidden from the user. Menus, toolbars, task panes, etc. Something needed to be done. And a clean break was best.


If Microsoft were truly interested in a clean UI break, in UI consistency across Windows applications, and thereby in improving the "experience" for their users, then why didn't Microsoft simply publish a set of "ribbon rules" (a specification, if you will) to define that ribbon UI consistency, and then let any developer who wanted to simply go ahead and implement a ribbon interface for their application?

No, with Microsoft, instead we get this:
http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2008/07/20/the-evil-of-the-of...
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/591-microsofts-office-ui-patent-trap-...

This pretty much guarantees that some Windows applications (mostly, those from Microsoft) will have a ribbon interface, and other Windows applications (those not from Microsoft) won't ... making for a horribly confused UI environment in Windows.

Just typical.

PS: One remembers, of course, bygone days when Microsoft used to insist that "look and feel" was not protectable IP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corp...

The court ruled that, "Apple cannot get patent-like protection for the idea of a graphical user interface"


Edited 2010-05-13 07:21 UTC

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MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

1. Microsoft's position is that the old menus/toolbars are fine for apps where such a UI isn't overburdened. So there's no need for every app to use a Ribbon UI.

2. UI consistency among all 1st and 3rd party apps is overrated. Web pages have different UIs and users get along just fine.

3. There are multiple ribbon components provided by third party developer component makers like DevExperss, provided by MFC, and provided by Win32 itself. And there are many non-Microsoft apps that use these to implement Ribbons, and they're just fine.

4. As for your complaint that Microsoft seeks to disallow OO.o from ripping off the Ribbon UI for which Microsoft spent millions on R&D, while at the same time allowing any and every app that doesn't directly compete with Office to use it, I really couldn't care less.

5. Your post is irrelevant to the subject that was being discussed, and you know that.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Microsoft's position is that the old menus/toolbars are fine for apps where such a UI isn't overburdened. So there's no need for every app to use a Ribbon UI.


http://www.debenu.com/blog/windows-7-paint-wordpad-and-the-ribbon-i...

Paint, Notepad and Wordpad all have an "overburdened UI"?

Really?

Who would have thought?

As for your complaint that Microsoft seeks to disallow OO.o from ripping off the Ribbon UI for which Microsoft spent millions on R&D, while at the same time allowing any and every app that doesn't directly compete with Office to use it, I really couldn't care less.


Millions on R&D? Really? (They must be horribly inefficient then). So Microsoft invested millions on look-and-feel, for which Microsoft themselves set a precedent in courts that you cannot protect? Amusing. I bet the shareholders were pleased.

Oh, I suppose Microsoft figured they could always "license" it, and see if there were any suckers who took them up.

BTW: OpenOffice had a look at it, but from the comments received apparently fully two thirds of users hated the idea.

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/08/06/openoffice-org-demos-ribbon...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13556_3-10306521-61.html

Edited 2010-05-16 14:23 UTC

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