Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th May 2010 18:35 UTC
Humor Every now and then, you come across things that make the internet worthwhile. So yeah, there's this whole genitalia length comparing competition going on between Adobe and Apple, where both companies are actually arguing, with straight faces, which of the two is more open (which to me comes across as Mario and Zelda arguing over who's less of a sell-out). Luckily, though, there's the internet to make us laugh.
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Remember of Mac OS marketing
by ciplogic on Fri 14th May 2010 19:05 UTC
ciplogic
Member since:
2006-12-22

When MacOS was less advanced that even Windows98, Steve Jobs say that they are the best. When they compare Mac OS X with Windows, they say: Windows crash, which was not true anymore. When you compare today the JavaScript with Flash, you see that you cannot run just on IPhone. But I'm glad that I can look on Youtube using Flash (and not only) on my Android phone and I recommend anyone to get one. In Spain you can get an Htc Hero with Android with 0 euro with carriers. And you have openess not only to run flash, but to create your own applications, to write in one language that is not of Google (meaning Java) and your phone will have as many options as phone creators are: Samsung, Htc, Motorola ;)

Edited 2010-05-14 19:09 UTC

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RE: Remember of Mac OS marketing
by tyrione on Fri 14th May 2010 22:06 in reply to "Remember of Mac OS marketing"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

When MacOS was less advanced that even Windows98, Steve Jobs say that they are the best. When they compare Mac OS X with Windows, they say: Windows crash, which was not true anymore. When you compare today the JavaScript with Flash, you see that you cannot run just on IPhone. But I'm glad that I can look on Youtube using Flash (and not only) on my Android phone and I recommend anyone to get one. In Spain you can get an Htc Hero with Android with 0 euro with carriers. And you have openess not only to run flash, but to create your own applications, to write in one language that is not of Google (meaning Java) and your phone will have as many options as phone creators are: Samsung, Htc, Motorola ;)


Steve Jobs wasn't at Apple when Win98 was out. We were NeXT and NeXTSTEP was far and away superior to Win98.

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ciplogic Member since:
2006-12-22

My timing is on because: OS X was launched in 2001 and Steve Jobs was in Apple from 1997 and was showing Mac OS 9 "Revolutionary OS" like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBiYsMIn32E . The single reason that Mac OS was more responsive, was that was running on faster hardware (PowerPC chips and later the G3 were even twice as fast as Pentium II at their times, but not because of their underlying OS). Please look on youtube on both presentations on Mac OS 9 with it's great Sherlock application and with a PowerPC demo in Photoshop against a PC version. Till 2001, Mac OS have a technology that was less advanced than anything out-there (OS2, BeOS, Windows 9x or NT, or Linux).
The point of my comment was just hypocrisy. As of today, ALL(most) features of OS X are in Linux are in 2006 (like 2D vector graphic, buggy composite display) and of course in Vista. But Windows 2000 has for first time the kernel thread pools (which are GCD in Snow Leopard) and there are benchmarks showing that OS X were not performing well on G5 in multithreaded benchmarks (write in a search engine: anandtech g5 tiger.
OS X, "the most advanced OS"? Probably not. A pretty and expensive case, most probably.
Even today when we compare Vista (or 7) with Snow Leopard we have the same capabilities (like: Java vs .NET, PDF display, color profiles, etc.) but only that you can buy an full featured laptop at 1000 dollars (or euro) which if was named Apple you will pay at least 1700, and Windows license is not included.
This is why I'm glad at the end I have Flash on Android: is about the ecosystem, an open one, informed one, with all your options in one place. Not one carrier, not one phone model (with it's upgrades), not software.
Edit: added youtube link

Edited 2010-05-15 14:21 UTC

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bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

When MacOS was less advanced that even Windows98, Steve Jobs say that they are the best...


Your timing is off.

Mac OS (on the 680x0 at least), ran better than Windows 95/95. I never had trouble with communications dropping the way I did with Windows, which is why I relied on OS/2 on 80x86 machines.

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TBPrince Member since:
2005-07-06

Your timing is off. Mac OS (on the 680x0 at least), ran better than Windows 95/95. I never had trouble with communications dropping the way I did with Windows, which is why I relied on OS/2 on 80x86 machines.


Oh, you mean it ran better because of lack of any memory protection (which was optional... go figure) or because applications need to specifically designed to use preemptive multitasking and, if not designed that way, MacOS was using a cooperative multitasking with all apps sharing a single process? ;-) So when your calculator app banged, ALL processes needed to be closed...

Hell, Windows 3.x had memory protection and in Windows95 all apps used preemptive multitasking without requiring to be specifically designed for that.

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RE: Remember of Mac OS marketing
by Auzy on Sat 15th May 2010 05:10 in reply to "Remember of Mac OS marketing"
Auzy Member since:
2008-01-20

What I found hilarious is that in the past I needed to show live security camera footage on the iphone.. We had to use the javascript way (other method's weren't support), and after less than an hour, Safari on the iphones/ipod touch would crash.

I also love how Apple salespeople have told friends that "OSX is immune against viruses". I also love how Steve Jobs thinks flash is only for video.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

What I found hilarious is that in the past I needed to show live security camera footage on the iphone.. We had to use the javascript way (other method's weren't support), and after less than an hour, Safari on the iphones/ipod touch would crash.


Amazing how all these anecdotes seem to only appear on forums such as this and never by high profile pundits or blogs. It has all the reliability of, "a friend of a friend of a friend who's uncles wife's sister in law had a problem with Safari crashing which must mean that Apple sucks".

I also love how Apple salespeople have told friends that "OSX is immune against viruses".


Or your friends not listening to the full sentence which would have been something entirely different. I've never come across an Apple employee or a Apple sales person stating that Apple is immune from virus's - the most I have heard is the claim that virus's aren't an issue right now because there are none in the wild (malware isn't a virus - so don't try to be dishonest). The emphasis is on 'right now' because it could change in the future but it is doubtful since almost all the effort is on malware these days and not the traditional virus's I remember back in my Amiga days.

I also love how Steve Jobs thinks flash is only for video.


Where did Steve Jobs state that Flash is only used for video? All his statements point to him noting that Flash is primarily used on an end users desktop to play videos. Can Flash do other things? sure, no one has denied it but the primary reason one has Flash installed in the first place is to watch YouTube, Hulu, Vimeo, LiveLeak and so on.

Edited 2010-05-16 03:12 UTC

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