Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th May 2010 18:39 UTC, submitted by hotice
Gnome The problem with just about every virtual desktop implementation is just that - they're virtual. This means that beyond the ability to move windows to specific desktops, you're still looking at exactly the same desktop, no matter what virtual desktop number you switched to. A mockup for GNOME Shell is trying to take the virtual out of virtual desktop.
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Oh damn, here comes another change...
by Jason Bourne on Fri 14th May 2010 23:12 UTC
Jason Bourne
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I am tired of these changes. The usability of these changes contributes too little for a pain of learning new stuff like this.

Take for example the KDE 4 series standard menu. I, for the love of God, am unable to understand how that menu is more useful over the old classic menu. You need to draw your own algorithm to figure where certain application is placed in the menu, by sliding trough the menu tabs and browsing its sections. Every single time you access that menu, I stop and think: "Wait, where was that last the time?"

Of course, I can make my favourite applications get fixed in menu root, but boy, never changing the standard classic menu was the best way for a monkey to use KDE. I can have the old classic menu, but since the new is the default, this matters for everyone deploying default installations and default settings: You want your friends & family being converted to Linux, don't you?

GNOME 3 is coming and I can feel a dejavu feeling resembling KDE 4 first release. Things are going to change. There is going to be really cool things about it, loads of facilities and people will praise and proclaim it. However I fear that most of it will be useless to most of us in daily computing. This will cause an exodus back to KDE, for those who wanted GNOME 3.0 to be a clever evolution from GNOME 2.0 (example: able to lasso files in list view, something that up to now, it's impossible in GNOME-current).

Now it seems that another step in a complete revolutionary direction is going to be taken AGAIN in FOSS project. I know that there is going to be a legacy mode, and it's not going to be the default mode. To me, this whole virtual desktop thing serves only to cause more confusion in my daily usability than actually solve my problems. Not counting here Mrs. Shuttleworth's Ubuntu future windicators. Enough is enough.

Heck, I'd prefer this kind of stuff never changed that much... However, there are certain people developing software thinking enough is never enough, no matter what.

Edited 2010-05-14 23:19 UTC

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Morty Member since:

I am unable to understand how that menu is more useful over the old classic menu.

The developers did a good systematic usability study on it, and found it better for the most common usage patterns. But for people like you, who have an usage pattern or mind not compatible with those improvements, the classic menu is available with 2(3) clicks. So basically you loose nothing, but other users gain an improvement, making your complaining void.

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Jason Bourne Member since:

The KDE4 menu is just an example I brought up. This is not human vs. monkey brains in action, like you suggest. It's also about why Vista became a commercial failure and XP being preferred as the "standard" operating system until 2014.

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sdhays Member since:

"And get off my lawn!"

I felt the same way about the KDE4 K menu when I first tried out KDE 4.2; I hated it. But that lasted about a day. The combination of setting up my most frequently used applications in the favorites section and then using search for everything else has made my life SOOOO much easier. I was just forced to downgrade my Fedora 12 system at work to the ancient RHEL5 with KDE3, and hunting through menus to find the application I want got old really, really fast. The actual menu portions of the KDE3 menu are better/more intuitive than its KDE4 counterpart, but the KDE4 version makes searching through menus obsolete. And, in my experience, that's a very, very good thing.

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