Linked by RichterKuato on Fri 14th May 2010 22:56 UTC
Internet & Networking It annoys me that Flash is required for most video sites. Especially when Flash isn't available on a lot of devices or at least not the latest, required version. Whenever I try to use my Internet Tablet to watch shows on sites like Hulu, Veoh, Crackle, Joost, etc., I can't, because they require a newer version of Flash, and I'm stuck with what I have. Thankfully not every site uses the latest version. At least not yet anyways.
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RE: Oh Noes!!!
by atriq on Sat 15th May 2010 00:41 UTC in reply to "Oh Noes!!!"
atriq
Member since:
2007-10-18

We're talking a 330mhz ARM6, a mediocre 220mhz C55 dsp, a powerVR GPU less powerful than a Voodoo 2, and 128 MEGS of RAM...

You don't see me bitching that my 600mhz Athlon from 1999 can't handle modern flash content!

GAH - what the HELL?!?
I doubt one could directly compare clocks of a modern mobile chip that probably supports h.264 hardware acceleration against a desktop chip from a decade ago as a means to estimate relative performance.

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RE[2]: Oh Noes!!!
by deathshadow on Sat 15th May 2010 01:11 in reply to "RE: Oh Noes!!!"
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2005-07-12

I doubt one could directly compare clocks of a modern mobile chip that probably supports h.264 hardware acceleration against a desktop chip from a decade ago as a means to estimate relative performance.

Hence my selecting TWICE the clock speed and assuming it has a BETTER GPU.

Besides, the C55 DSP isn't exactly what I'd call a h.264 hardware assist, especially under Meamo. At 220mhz you are lucky it manages MP3 decoding; which is what it is basically in there to do which is why it's a DSP only, NOT an ISP.

The device can barely manage native playback of Mpeg2, much less MP4 Video at anything more than standard def... and frankly video was not it's focus as it's a mediocre little handheld one step removed from their phones.

If we were talking the Nokia N900, ok, THEN you can complain about it... 600mhz ARM 8, a modern decoder in the form of the 430mhz C64x+ DSP/ISP - about equal to a 1.2ghz Celeron M WITH a modern video hardware decoder - the performance should be equal to an Ion equipped 1.6ghz Atom.

Even the video hardware itself - comparing the OMAP 2340's "PowerVR MBX lite" to the "PowerVR 530 SGX" is like comparing a Riva 128 to a GeForce 2...

Complaining about it on the N810 is like complaining about it on a PSP or an old Pentium 3. The hardware just isn't there to do the job in the first place. The ARM 6 CPU being about equal to twice the clockspeed in a Pentium 3 (so about 1.8x the clock speed in a gen 1 thunderbird, hence my choice of 600mhz athlon), the DSP being relatively useless for h.264 or other modern decoding since it lacks the ISP commands of later versions, and the integrated "PowerVR MBX lite" being about equal to an old nVidia Riva board or an old ATI Rage 128.

Reducing the article to little more than pointless flash bashing.

THINK people. Rub a couple brain cells together. You might as well have complained about trying to run flash on one of the phones that comes free with one of the $40/mo talk only cell service plans... like the crappy little OMAP 850 powered HTC I've been looking at.

Edited 2010-05-15 01:18 UTC

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