Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th May 2010 19:23 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes There's one complaint we here at OSNews get thrown in our faces quite often: what's up with the lack of, you know, operating system news on OSNews? Why so much mobile phone news? Why so much talk of H264, HTML5, and Flash? Where's the juicy news on tomorrow's operating systems? Since it's weekend, I might as well explain why things are the way they are. Hint: it has nothing to do with a lack of willingness.
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Thanks Thom
by Bobthearch on Sat 15th May 2010 20:00 UTC
Bobthearch
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2006-01-27

While I don't agree with everything you've written, it was insightful.

The biggest difference between the 'old' OSNews and the 'new' OSNews wasn't the people in charge or the news items, it was the forums. Much more interactive than simply commenting on news articles, it felt more like a Community back then. The members made their own 'news' by asking questions, helping each other, and sharing experiences.

What I especially enjoyed about the "old days" were the regular announcements from the micro-operating systems. MikeOS, TriangleOS, Visopsys, Qube... news you couldn't get anywhere else.

Is the current state of alternative operating systems as bleak and barren as you say? I hope not.

If the most active area of operating system advancements is cell phones, I don't mind that. But how 'bout some stories about these operating systems? It seems that OSNews primarily covers these companies' lawsuits and hardware releases, but not much at all regarding the actual operating systems.

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Whatever happened to the planned series of interviews? Still in the works?

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RE: Thanks Thom
by Beachchairs on Sat 15th May 2010 21:23 in reply to "Thanks Thom"
Beachchairs Member since:
2009-04-10

If the most active area of operating system advancements is cell phones, I don't mind that. But how 'bout some stories about these operating systems? It seems that OSNews primarily covers these companies' lawsuits and hardware releases, but not much at all regarding the actual operating systems.

This. WebOS is talked about like it was the second coming of Jesus, but (as a Blackberry user) I don't really know what was so special about it.

What about doing a smartphone OS rundown?

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RE[2]: Thanks Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 15th May 2010 23:19 in reply to "RE: Thanks Thom"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

What about doing a smartphone OS rundown?


I'd love to. When any of the modern Android phones actually make it to the Dutch market. When the webOS finally arrives on the Dutch market. And, of course, I'd need to have the money. You see, it's not as simple as it seems. We can't snap our fingers and have expensive hardware magically appear on our desks.

It'd be great if I could compare, I don't know, a Nexus One and a Pre Plus to my iPhone 3GS. The thing is - Google, Palm, and my wallet won't let me.

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RE: Thanks Thom
by Bobthearch on Sun 16th May 2010 01:17 in reply to "Thanks Thom"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Is the current state of alternative operating systems as bleak and barren as you say? I hope not.


In answer to my own question, I did a few minutes of research to track down some of the independent operating systems, particularly OSes that I'd had success installing and booting in the past. While it's true that many are dead or abandoned, and the others rarely have earth-shattering news, there's still plenty of life left in some corners of the OS world:

MenuetOS, last updated May 15, 2010 with version 0.93s, which added multi-processor support. And yes, it still fits on a single floppy.

KolibriOS, a fork of MenuetOS, was last updated in Dec 2009 and is at version 0.7.7.

MikeOS was last updated on January 12, 2010 and is at version 4.1.

LoseTheOS gets small fixes and updates nearly bi-weekly. Current version, 6.08.

MonaOS was updated in Oct 2009 to version 0.3.0, an update that included an added shell, added programming language, and a new sound player. This update is considered, "the first release of Mona for daily use."

SunriseOS appears to be dead. It had a Geocities website, and apparently never moved to a new host.

TriangleOS. Abandoned(?) since version 0.3.0 that was released in 2003.

FreeDOS files are updated regularly, the latest on April 19, 2010. But there hasn't been a major version release since Sept 2006.

unOS appears to be stalled, with the last version being 0.98. Not sure of that release date, but the website hasn't been updated since April 2009.

Visopsys' last release was the 0.7 Preview on April 2, 2008. It seems that the anticipated final 0.7 never happened.

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RE[2]: Thanks Thom
by Morgan on Sun 16th May 2010 01:40 in reply to "RE: Thanks Thom"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

FreeDOS files are updated regularly, the latest on April 19, 2010. But there hasn't been a major version release since Sept 2006.


This doesn't surprise me at all; it is used by a lot of companies and organizations that would otherwise have to depend on a 15-year-old copy of MS-DOS 6.22. Platform stability would be very important. Besides, it's DOS -- not much more to improve upon! ;P

Thank you for the list, by the way. I see several that I've played with too.

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RE[2]: Thanks Thom
by BlueofRainbow on Sun 16th May 2010 13:09 in reply to "RE: Thanks Thom"
BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

Most of the OSes on this list were covered by OSNews - often in a deep comparison of user experience, features, and of course limitations. Coming to OSNews is how I learned of their existence.

I don't pretend to belong to the geeky crowd enjoying hours of command line sessions to get a distribution "just-right" nor re-compiling stuff to get a desired application fits into my configuration.

Nevertheless, I enjoy experimenting with self-contained OSes - especially if they entirely fit on a bootfloppy or are available as a Live (CD or USB) image.

For this kind of coverage, OSNews will still be what it has always been for me. And, in a few years, the netbooks, smart phones and tablets will likely have their own alternative and hobby OSes worth exploring. By then, and given the close association of these OSes with a network service provider, it is also hoped that it will be possible to do as easily/conveniently as using a bootfloppy, LiveCD or LiveUSB.

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RE: Thanks Thom
by Bobthearch on Sun 16th May 2010 16:34 in reply to "Thanks Thom"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Cleaning up the links in the "Operating System" bookmark folder, here are a few more alternative operating systems and their current states of development:

TabOS, last updated in March, 2008.

BlueIllusionOS. A re-start of development was announced in Dec, 2009 but the last download version is dated August, 2008.

NewOS, last version was June 2005.

HelenOS. Not discussed much at OSNews, but is under active development and a new version was released on March 10, 2010.

ZotOS never really got off the ground. Version 2 is the latest, which although not dated I recall from years ago.

CoyoteOS, a continuation or re-boot of EROS, had a news item added most recently in May, 2008.

Whitix was last updated in Dec 2008, although news items were added to the website through Oct, 2009.

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RE[2]: Thanks Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 16th May 2010 16:45 in reply to "RE: Thanks Thom"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You see my point, right?

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