Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th May 2010 19:23 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes There's one complaint we here at OSNews get thrown in our faces quite often: what's up with the lack of, you know, operating system news on OSNews? Why so much mobile phone news? Why so much talk of H264, HTML5, and Flash? Where's the juicy news on tomorrow's operating systems? Since it's weekend, I might as well explain why things are the way they are. Hint: it has nothing to do with a lack of willingness.
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RE[2]: I completely disagree Thom
by gedmurphy on Sat 15th May 2010 23:27 UTC in reply to "RE: I completely disagree Thom"
gedmurphy
Member since:
2005-12-23

Android is huge right now, it's being pushed and pulled in all sorts of different directions and there's some great stories to be had. You need to be mixing in those environments to get the inside information, it's not news that the rest of the internet picks up on. That's what made this site unique.

Haiku is really exciting at the moment, there's cool things happening all the time in that community. I'm sure people would prefer to hear about all the inside little stories that happens in the haiku community instead of Apple patents.

ReactOS is far from the picture you painted. There's tonnes of cool stuff happening in that community, but you either need to be closely following their mailing lists or in their IRC channels to find out about it. If all else fails, then the news letters have good stuff to report on. Again, this is what used to make osnews cool, it had this insider information.

ChromeOS, surely there's stories to be gathered on that, the development model is available to peer into.

WebOS is looking like it might get a push from HP again. Are you saying there's absolutley no news on this?

Granted the Windows Phone 7 is still pretty secretive at the moment, but there are still stories to be had.


I understand all these news stories are hard to come by, but isn't that what journalism is all about? As a news site targeting operating systems, the idea is to get involved and dig out these stories. otherwise you just end up picking up the same news as all the other websites are reporting on, and becoming another slashdot, which is what osnews has sadly become.


When was the last time any osnews editors followed the OS communities at a personal level?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Android is huge right now


That's great - but not where I live. In The Netherlands, there's like 2 Android phones for sale running 1.5, and that's it. Adding insult to injury is the fact that I live in a small rural community far away from everything.

Haiku is really exciting at the moment, there's cool things happening all the time in that community. I'm sure people would prefer to hear about all the inside little stories that happens in the haiku community instead of Apple patents.


Uh? We report on Haiku all the time.

ChromeOS, surely there's stories to be gathered on that, the development model is available to peer into.


We covered its announcement in quite a lot of detail, but since no release has been made, it's hard for any of us to really dive into this. I'm not going to peer into source code submissions, since I'd not know what to do with them.

WebOS is looking like it might get a push from HP again. Are you saying there's absolutley no news on this?


Have you been reading the same OSNews I have? We've reported LIKE CRAZY on Palm and the webOS. I mean, I got comments asking to tone it down!

Granted the Windows Phone 7 is still pretty secretive at the moment, but there are still stories to be had.


Again - we've reported like crazy on Windows Phone 7! Seriously, which OSNews are you reading?

When was the last time any osnews editors followed the OS communities at a personal level?


Plural? You do realise that effectively, there's just one editor here, right? I've followed all sorts of OS communities at very personal levels, but here's the shocker: there are no OS communities anymore other than the big boring ones.

I keep very close tabs on Haiku and AmigaOS (trust me, I've got really cool stuff coming up from the Amiga world, can't say anything more). That's it. What else am I supposed to follow? The three news items a year from Syllable (which Kaj de Vos writes for us)? ReactOS gets covered too, but since their progress is so slow, what am I supposed to do, cover every icon change?

Some here say there's enough out there, but then fail to give any examples. Really - I would like to believe you, but why, then, isn't our queue filled with this stuff?

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woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

Instead of complaining that you are unable to attain an android phone, you could always try out the emulator which comes with the SDK (Free, works on the big 3 AFAIK)

Failing that, you could always buy a HTC Desire from ebay, something to spend your tax return on? ;)

Did you report on VirtualBox's latest release, with OSX Guest support?
Virtualisation is a huge part of computing now, just like 'the cloud'.

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kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

When you say 'we report on [insert OS here]' you mean you reference a press release or someone else's story.

OSNews was interesting in the past because there was quite in-depth analysis of individual operating systems. Eugenia actually installed various operating systems and talked about their features, their benefits and their shortcomings.

(Yes, she did focus overmuch on something to do with video cameras which no one but Eugenia really understood or cared about but all the other stuff was great ;-)

OSNews needs more of that.

Otherwise it's mostly just links to other sites with the occasional somewhat extremist position piece by Thom.

Really it would be good to get back to operating systems, review them, talk about them, analyze the, critique them ... even mainstream operating systems.

It's not all bad though. Thom does occasionally score a good piece but it's mostly become like Thom's personal blog (and there is really no need to link to the submit rules again Thom).

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edwinr Member since:
2010-05-16

In The Netherlands, there's like 2 Android phones for sale running 1.5, and that's it.

Come on, that's just not true. There are lots of Android phones you can buy in the Netherlands. At the very least you can buy them online, but I've seen them in other stores as well.

For example:

HTC Legend (2.1)
HTC Desire (2.1)
Motorola Milestone (2.0)
HTC Tattoo (1.6)
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 (1.6)
HTC Hero (1.5, supposed to get an update)
Samsung Galaxy Spica i5700 (1.5, supposed to get an update)
Samsung Galaxy i7500 (1.5, don't know if it will get an update)
LG GW620 (1.5)

And there are are some other phones like the Nexus One or Acer Liquid you can get in some Dutch online stores, although I don't know if they are officially supposed to be sold here.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

HP has a number of O/S's in its portfolio.

Apart from HP/UX & the benefits from their purchase of Palm, they have Open/VMS & the Tandem Non Stop O/S as well, not forgetting Tru64.

We all seem for forget that IBM has Z/OS & OS/400 (or whatever it is called this week) in its stable as well as AIX.

There are lots of Operating Systems around that just won't run on an Intel X86 system.
Personally, I think that X86 is an evolutionary dead end like the Lemur family of mammals but I'm biased as I cut my O/S teeth on PDP-11's & VAX's. In some ways I'm sad that Itanium is dying a slow and inevitable death.

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reez Member since:
2006-06-28

HP has a number of O/S's in its portfolio.

Apart from HP/UX & the benefits from their purchase of Palm, they have Open/VMS & the Tandem Non Stop O/S as well, not forgetting Tru64.

We all seem for forget that IBM has Z/OS & OS/400 (or whatever it is called this week) in its stable as well as AIX.

And there is anything newsworthy?
Aren't they just making their stuff more stable, adding support for Itanium and new hardware? I am not following them actively, but to me it looks like the OSs do mostly care about stability and therefore they don't create anything newsworthy. I could be wrong, as I am not very interested into this system. Like you already wrote, it's not x86-Stuff.

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