Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th May 2010 19:14 UTC, submitted by RJay75
Apple While I was too young to experience its heyday, I have heard a lot of people wax lyrically about Apple's HyperCard. Even Steve Jobs himself said, earlier this year, that he'd love for a HyperCard-like environment to come to the iPhone, but that someone would have to build it. Well, someone did indeed build it, called it revMobile, but Apple has rejected 'it' from the App Store (i.e., applications developed using revMobile) because it violates section 3.3.1 of the iPhone SDK agreement. The team behind Unity, however, are luckier: Unity games are still being accepted into the App Store, and as such, they're not worried.
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RE[2]: Comment by Shannara
by DOSguy on Tue 18th May 2010 23:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Shannara"
DOSguy
Member since:
2009-07-27

Well, actually your the one who claim that...
To me S. Jobs takes his word on protecting his user... like I am!


I really don't understand what you are trying to say here.

- Adobe (flash that should have run on iPhone but apple doesn’t want... it turns that Abode haven’t any flash version ready for iPhone...)


Maybe they don't have a flash version ready because Apple told them they aren't interested in Flash.

- Microsoft... lol it begin from Gates saying that 640k is sufficient...


At some point in time it was enough. A misprediction isn't the same as a lie.

- Google and it revolutionary distribution model for mobile...
- Google and the Open Handset Alliance... lol
- Google and the Android market... lol (x2)


I don't follow you. Could you please elaborate on these 'lies'?

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RE[3]: Comment by Shannara
by fgrasset on Wed 19th May 2010 00:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Shannara"
fgrasset Member since:
2005-12-02

"Well, actually your the one who claim that...
To me S. Jobs takes his word on protecting his user... like I am!


I really don't understand what you are trying to say here.
"

Well regarding the comment of Shannara say that S. Jobs was a « documented » liar, I express two objection:
1) Who sais Jobs is a « documented » liar?

2) S. Jobs have dais a lot of things, among them that the he will protect the level of usage of the Apple product.

Thus as a consumer I agree with that... And will not every thing please me, it still a lot better than other company offer (again in my point of view).

Maybe they don't have a flash version ready because Apple told them they aren't interested in Flash.

Well that wasn’t how Adobe present the thing...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/03/18/adobe.iphone.flash.co...

Whatever this just prove that the decision of Apple (Jobs) was the good one at the time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7709473/Disastrous-Flas...

I don't follow you. Could you please elaborate on these 'lies'?

Well like the one in the article this was some promise to user that are not fulfilled as advertised and mostly because of some change strange internal policy... but nobody claim people behind are « documented » liar...

Anyway I doesn’t fell like I should go ahead on the subject....

If you have failed to get the point, My main concern here is the gratuitous comment about a so-called « documented’ liar about A CEO who bring me some of the best product I’m actually using (and not I’m not using only apple product...)

Also to respond to a previous reply I don’t change any topics, I reply to a exiting reply of the article...
And if trying to tag as « fanboy » anybody that doesn’t blindly agree to bashing an Apple related thing is your only type of reply... who’s the fanboy???

Finally back to the topic, it’s always sad when the use of a technology is restricted...
But regarding the revMobile case I’m not sure of what is the real gain of this product for the end-user nor for the developer in fact!
Rapid prototyping is interesting for experimental product, less for final products. And with interface builder, Core Data, Managed Object and Binding programming, Cocoa can be used as a very productive way.
And it can bring easy Mac porting.
Well it seems like just another programming environment with little added value (for a cocoa developer perceptive).

Unity however is different : it bring new stuffs, notably a 3D modeler along with a 3D engine thus there is a real added value, even for a cocoa developer.

That why these cases doesn’t appear outstanding in the point to have as first comment something about « documented » liar!

Edited 2010-05-19 01:05 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Shannara
by mtzmtulivu on Wed 19th May 2010 01:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Shannara"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

I did not call you a fanboy though my comment may be interpreted as me calling you one and should have write it clearer, my apologies.

if you disagree with a statement that steve job is a documented lier, challenge the original poster to back up his statement.

two seconds googling and i came up with these two articles that seem to document jobs lies. YOu may not agree with these articles, but they do document jobs actions and statements and they make the poster's statement valid.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/jan/21/liesdamnliesa...

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2009/09/11/did-steve-jobs-spin-the-ny-t...

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