Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th May 2010 18:29 UTC
Google At the Google I/O conference, Google just held its second keynote address, which focussed on Android. The talk was held by Vic Gundotra, and he unveiled a number of new features coming in Android 2.2 "Froyo", as well as some features coming in Froyo+1. The main theme of the entire keynote? Openness and choice, and a whole bucketload of not-so-subtle jabs at Apple. I'd like to apologise upfront for a possible lack of critical notes in this article - I'm still handing out the brownie points to Google for yesterday.
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RE[2]: Disguise
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 20th May 2010 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Disguise"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Google isn't Apple... That amounts to a free pass around these parts.


Gosh, a company about a million times more open than Apple is looked upon more favourably than the most closed company in the entire technology sector.

What a shocker.

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RE[3]: Disguise
by macUser on Fri 21st May 2010 00:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Disguise"
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

"Google isn't Apple... That amounts to a free pass around these parts.


Gosh, a company about a million times more open than Apple is looked upon more favourably than the most closed company in the entire technology sector.

What a shocker.
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A million more times? Google is only as open as they need to be to drain ever ounce of information they can make money off of out of you. It is still only about the Benjamins. How does Google get off laying blame on developers and users for poor battery performance? How does Google get off rewriting its own history? How does Google get off when they're caught mining access points for personal information? Yes, Thom is willing to look the other way if his agenda is matched.

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RE[4]: Disguise
by rhetoric.sendmemoney on Fri 21st May 2010 01:35 in reply to "RE[3]: Disguise"
rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

Yep, A MILLION.
Google does more for open software in one summer of code then Apple has in its entire existence.

How does Apple get a free pass for their exploding Ipods from the legion of iTards? Sure Google makes money, but every day they make my life easier by placing information a couple keystrokes away. The only thing Apple ever gave me was a good laugh at Stevie's ridiculous attempts at looking hip.

Also, why do you always bring Thom into your ridiculous arguments? How does that support anything? Face it, Apple has made some dumb calls and Google called them on it. Its just business champ, keep your chin up.

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RE[4]: Disguise
by -pekr- on Fri 21st May 2010 04:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Disguise"
-pekr- Member since:
2006-03-28

How does Google get off when they're caught mining access points for personal information? Yes, Thom is willing to look the other way if his agenda is matched.


Mining access points for personal information? Man, we run network for over 700 wi-fi customers. You should know what you are talking about, or just shut-up - your argument is clearly a propaganda to back-up your trolling against Google. And I am not a Google fanboy, I don't like anyone's monopolistic practices. But ppl should get their arguments straight ...

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RE[4]: Disguise
by elsewhere on Fri 21st May 2010 06:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Disguise"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Yes, Thom is willing to look the other way if his agenda is matched.


Hang on, I'm confused. I thought this was the week that was scheduled to bash Thom for supporting Apple? When did this change? I thought the anti-Apple bashing was next week, or did we push forward the timing for attacking his pro-Microsoft stance?

Can someone send me the updated calendar? I'm building up some material for attacking him on his pro-Ubuntu and anti-linux agenda, and would like some clear time-lines to work with.

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RE[3]: Disguise
by kristoph on Fri 21st May 2010 05:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Disguise"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

No bias there.

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RE[3]: Disguise
by Tony Swash on Fri 21st May 2010 09:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Disguise"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Gosh, a company about a million times more open than Apple


Google is a company a million times more open than Apple?

OK - list and describe to me the core algorithms of the Google search engine.

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RE[4]: Disguise
by rhetoric.sendmemoney on Fri 21st May 2010 18:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Disguise"
rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

"Gosh, a company about a million times more open than Apple


Google is a company a million times more open than Apple?

OK - list and describe to me the core algorithms of the Google search engine.
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Really??? That doesn't even make sense!

Look Champ, nobody said 100% open. We said a million times more open. Admittedly a bit stretched but nowhere does 1 million x = 100%. Google has paid for and supported more open source code in Summer of Code alone then Apple has touched. Android, VP8, Chrome and the rest are just icing on the cake. Quit making ridiculous interpretations of what other people have said.

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RE[3]: Disguise
by MysterMask on Fri 21st May 2010 18:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Disguise"
MysterMask Member since:
2005-07-12

Gosh, a company about a million times more open than Apple


You don't get the Google business model, do you?

Of course, Google seems more open: that's simply the way they make money. Most of their business is build around providing (mostly third party) data to anybody for free (even in cases where the owner of the data does not approve). It doesn't matter for Google if they tie people to their services through their search engine, a software like Google Earth or a platform like Android. Just ask Google to provide their search algorithms, show their patents on acquiring user data, open up their data stores (not the data of others provided by Google Search but the data about you and me) to the public and look how open Google really is.


In the end, this is all about business*, it's not about freedom, not about openness, not about the best user experience or anything like that.


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*) Google is actually bringing us a lot closer to an Orwellian future than any other company on this planet.

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