Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st May 2010 06:49 UTC
Legal Let the spreading of FUD begin! Known patent troll Larry Horn, CEO of MPEG-LA, is clearly feeling the heat - a heat that might set fire to his company's license to print money. After a decade of empty threats towards Theora, the company is apparently putting its it's-impossible-to-create-a-video-codec-that-doesn't-infringe-on-our-stuff attitude into practice once again, by assembling a patent pool to go after VP8. Google, in the meantime, is not impressed.
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RE[3]: What a Joke
by Headrush on Fri 21st May 2010 21:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What a Joke"
Headrush
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2006-01-03

I was referencing the fact that every article seems to suggest everything the MPEG-LA says is all FUD.

Whether we like it or not or how stupid we might agree software patents are, the fact is the MPEG-LA does have a wide and varied patent pool. FACT.

Every article mentioning that come 2015 the MPEG-LA could do this or that, yet suggesting VP8 is perfectly safe is just doing the same thing. What stops the MPEG-LA from turning around and deciding to sue ABC for example for using VP8? Everyone assumes that Google would be sued but if using the previous arguments that for H.264 MPEG-LA could sue anyone in the change of use, then if there are violations in VP8, than the same thing can be said for it also.

Which re-enforces my point that as end users we are screwed until this is challenged in court and ultimately decided. The issue is the patent holder can wait for a time frame that fits their agenda. I doubt it exists but the USA patent office really needs a challenge period where new "products/ideas" can be submitted and there as to be some period of discovery that other holders have to decide if they think violations exist. They miss that they are out of look.

IMHO in the current situation we really don't know if we are any better off or not yet.

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RE[4]: What a Joke
by chris_l on Sat 22nd May 2010 19:26 in reply to "RE[3]: What a Joke"
chris_l Member since:
2010-02-14

I was referencing the fact that every article seems to suggest everything the MPEG-LA says is all FUD.

Whether we like it or not or how stupid we might agree software patents are, the fact is the MPEG-LA does have a wide and varied patent pool. FACT.

Every article mentioning that come 2015 the MPEG-LA could do this or that, yet suggesting VP8 is perfectly safe is just doing the same thing. What stops the MPEG-LA from turning around and deciding to sue ABC for example for using VP8? Everyone assumes that Google would be sued but if using the previous arguments that for H.264 MPEG-LA could sue anyone in the change of use, then if there are violations in VP8, than the same thing can be said for it also.

Which re-enforces my point that as end users we are screwed until this is challenged in court and ultimately decided. The issue is the patent holder can wait for a time frame that fits their agenda. I doubt it exists but the USA patent office really needs a challenge period where new "products/ideas" can be submitted and there as to be some period of discovery that other holders have to decide if they think violations exist. They miss that they are out of look.

IMHO in the current situation we really don't know if we are any better off or not yet.

I was referencing the fact that every article seems to suggest everything the MPEG-LA says is all FUD.

Whether we like it or not or how stupid we might agree software patents are, the fact is the MPEG-LA does have a wide and varied patent pool. FACT.



Every article mentioning that come 2015 the MPEG-LA could do this or that, yet suggesting VP8 is perfectly safe is just doing the same thing. What stops the MPEG-LA from turning around and deciding to sue ABC for example for using VP8? Everyone assumes that Google would be sued but if using the previous arguments that for H.264 MPEG-LA could sue anyone in the change of use, then if there are violations in VP8, than the same thing can be said for it also.

Which re-enforces my point that as end users we are screwed until this is challenged in court and ultimately decided. The issue is the patent holder can wait for a time frame that fits their agenda. I doubt it exists but the USA patent office really needs a challenge period where new "products/ideas" can be submitted and there as to be some period of discovery that other holders have to decide if they think violations exist. They miss that they are out of look.

IMHO in the current situation we really don't know if we are any better off or not yet.


And as others have pointed out, Google *BOUGHT* a company that was creating video codecs before MPEG-LA ever *EXISTED*

So the claim by MPEG-LA and their supporters like youself that MPEG-LA owns or has acess/rights to all forms of possible codecs is a bunch of bullshit.

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