Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd May 2010 21:18 UTC
Google This issue kind of fell by the wayside in all the WebM and Android violence, but apart from the cool things Google did this past week, they've also done something really bad. They claim it's a mistake, but the company has collected 600GB of data from open personal wireless networks in 33 countries through its Street View cars, prompting several countries to initiate official investigations into the search giant.
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RE: Permission
by Shannara on Sat 22nd May 2010 22:51 UTC in reply to "Permission"
Shannara
Member since:
2005-07-06

Not true. If someone put up their formerly private information on the web, it is NO LONGER PRIVATE ... A lot of people either forget or ignore that fact.

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RE[2]: Permission
by gnemmi on Sun 23rd May 2010 02:28 in reply to "RE: Permission"
gnemmi Member since:
2006-08-17

Sorry but you just haven't the slightest idea of what you are saying.

Where I store my information does not, in any way whatsoever, modify my rights upon it unless I specifically grant someone else the total or a at least a part of the them.

Storing _my_ information on _my_ server, does not give you, google or whoever else any single right upon it. Where I choose to store something of my property, does not change the nature of my rights upon it.

Edited 2010-05-23 02:31 UTC

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RE[3]: Permission
by Shannara on Sun 23rd May 2010 02:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Permission"
Shannara Member since:
2005-07-06

Ahh, we must be talking about respective laws in different countries ;) For instance, what I said applies to the USA ... what country does yours apply to?

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RE[3]: Permission
by l3v1 on Sun 23rd May 2010 06:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Permission"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Where I choose to store something of my property, does not change the nature of my rights upon it.


That's so vague it's a hundred different ways it could be attacked. E.g. if you leave your belonings in the middle of a city square without any protection, no sign that it's yours, and no warnings about eventual consequences of taking them, you can't expect they will remain untouched, even if at the point of dumping they were your properties. And even with this silly example I only partially approached the stupidity of putting private data to be accessible by random individuals through an unprotected wireless connection.

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RE[2]: Permission
by looncraz on Sun 23rd May 2010 21:06 in reply to "RE: Permission"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

Not true. If someone put up their formerly private information on the web, it is NO LONGER PRIVATE ... A lot of people either forget or ignore that fact.


Not sure why your were modded down for that. You speak the absolute truth. If I put my social security number on the internet, I should very well expect for it to be stolen.

Maybe because your comment doesn't really relate to the article, where a company drove around collecting ( rather useless ) information about WiFi networks is getting in some trouble.

I think, however, that it is the individual's responsibility to properly protect their network. It isn't terribly difficult.

The real truth, from the ground, is that most (knowledgeable) people really don't care if someone can hop in on their wireless network, so long as they aren't causing harm in any way.

I don't.

I have a 100% unsecured wireless network with as much amplification as I can provide so that anyone can get internet. I know most don't know enough to cause harm, and I know to secure the few areas that need security ( I own a LOT of computing power ).

Now, if someone comes in and snoops around, they will find some barriers ( notably my secure Linux server ), but even if they get past that and access all of my data - well, okay.. I have nothing to hide.

Seriously, who does? Sure, many people use Quicken or QuickBooks for financial data, but who is dumb enough to actually put enough information to destroy yourself in a single place?

I would never do that.

But that may just be me. I remember every single account number I've EVER had, and I just create a name. I also shred all mail that may identify me...

Maybe I'm just paranoid, though.

--The loon

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RE[3]: Permission
by gnemmi on Sun 23rd May 2010 23:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Permission"
gnemmi Member since:
2006-08-17

I should very well expect for it to be stolen.


And that doesn't change the fact that _it_was_stolen_ and that and that the one who _stole_it_ should be prosecuted.

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