Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd May 2010 21:18 UTC
Google This issue kind of fell by the wayside in all the WebM and Android violence, but apart from the cool things Google did this past week, they've also done something really bad. They claim it's a mistake, but the company has collected 600GB of data from open personal wireless networks in 33 countries through its Street View cars, prompting several countries to initiate official investigations into the search giant.
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RE: Orwellian
by l3v1 on Sun 23rd May 2010 06:33 UTC in reply to "Orwellian "
l3v1
Member since:
2005-07-06

Google is the closest thing we've had to Big Brother in recorded history


Not true. Big Brother never asks you if you're willing to participate. With Google, the users all opted in, and continue to do so, either never caring about their privacy-related settings, or never bothering to get information about how the different services work and how they are interconnected. I hate car analogies, but here you go, when you're buying a car, you're not just taking it home without getting all the information about terms, conditions, payment plan, insurance, and so on. The perception of what Google is becoming is just as much the users' fault - who are stupid - as theirs - who know they are stupid and exploit that to an extent.

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RE[2]: Orwellian
by Savior on Sun 23rd May 2010 09:08 in reply to "RE: Orwellian "
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2006-09-02

Not true. ... With Google, the users all opted in, and continue to do so

Not true. People whose data was stolen ("scanned") by the Street View cars never opted in.
People who had registered to Youtube before Google acquired it never opted in.

And while I partially agree with your about the users' responsibility, it is still *wrong* to just enter someone's house even if the door is open, and even if it is not against the law, taking something you find there definitely is. Same applies here.

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RE[3]: Orwellian
by r_a_trip on Sun 23rd May 2010 10:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Orwellian "
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

...it is still *wrong* to just enter someone's house even if the door is open, and even if it is not against the law, taking something you find there definitely is.

That is not what happened. With unprotected wifi a router owner pushes his laundry out into the street. Google wrote a piece of code that did not quite do what they expected and they were inadvertently eavesdropping, but I can't demonize Google for it.

If people shout out private stuff into the street and somebody hears it, than that is tough, but you can't expect privacy when you throw personal stuff out there yourself.

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