Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd May 2010 09:41 UTC
Benchmarks Now that Google has opened up VP8, the big question is obviously how it'll hold up to H264. Of course, VP8 already wins by default because it's open source and royalty free, but that doesn't mean we should neglect the quality issue. Jan Ozer from StreamingMedia.com has put up an article comparing the two codecs, and concludes that the differences are negligible - in fact, only in some high-motion videos did H264 win out. As always, this is just one comparison and most certainly anything but conclusive. Update: Another comparison. I can't spot the difference, but then again, I'm no expert.
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RE[6]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison
by Neolander on Mon 24th May 2010 12:11 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

http://people.mozilla.com/~dolske/apng/demo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
http://animatedpng.com/

Enjoy. Especially Chompy. (You will need Firefox 3.0 or later, or Opera).

That's the problem. I'd love to see a modern standard for animation on the web, but IE does not implement APNG and Apple, in their usual love of open media standards, didn't implement support for it in Webkit so the number of browsers which do not support it is likely going to increase in the upcoming years...

Moreover, the PNG guys, pissed off because their bloated MNG format did not get as much attention as they wanted, declared APNG as unsupported and vandalized its wikipedia page, favoring market fragmentation.

(PS : About PNG, I don't understand why there's 3 rows of thumbnails : GIF, APNG, and ?)

Edited 2010-05-24 12:22 UTC

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RE[7]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison
by lemur2 on Mon 24th May 2010 12:17 in reply to "RE[6]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"http://people.mozilla.com/~dolske/apng/demo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
http://animatedpng.com/

Enjoy. Especially Chompy. (You will need Firefox 3.0 or later, or Opera).

That's the problem. I'd love to see a modern standard for animation on the web, but IE does not implement APNG and Apple, in their usual love of open media standards, didn't implement support for it in Webkit so the number of browsers which do not support it is likely going to increase in the upcoming years...

Moreover, the PNG guys, pissed off because their bloated MNG format did not get as much attention as they wanted, declared APNG as unsupported and vandalized its wikipedia page, favoring market fragmentation.
"

Yes, browser support is a problem, but IE doesn't support anything anyway. Not even SVG. The larger problem is webkit, and I can't see why webkit shouldn't support it.

However, my post wasn't really about that point. I was replying to the claim that "It does not animate".

Actually, it does animate. Easy to show that it does.

Edited 2010-05-24 12:17 UTC

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

The original claim was...

Today GIF is used almost exclusively for its animations, since no other means of animation is natively supported by all browsers.

It does not claim that PNG does not animate. Just that not all (common) browsers support it, unlike GIF...

Edited 2010-05-24 12:31 UTC

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sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

MNG support was maliciously dropped by Mozilla because "you're face!" -- or at least that's the best argument I heard at the time. "We don't like to have a 100kb of image library weighing us down" is just plain silly.

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RE[8]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison
by Phil2 on Wed 26th May 2010 10:22 in reply to "RE[7]: H.264 vs VP8 comparison"
Phil2 Member since:
2010-05-26

Why people are still so bitter, after all these years...

Time to stop crying over MNG corpse, bury it and move on already.

MNG is simply too complex, for no good reason. End of story.

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