Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th May 2010 10:45 UTC
Legal Nero AG, a company with one of the most fitting names ever (can you imagine a company called Hitler or Stalin 2000 years from now?), has filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the MPEG-LA. The German technology company claims the licensing body has abused its monopoly power, and that is has not honoured agreements made with the US Department of Justice. There's some juicy stuff in here.
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RE[2]: Wow
by MacMan on Mon 24th May 2010 17:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow"
MacMan
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2006-11-19

I doubt they have deep enough pockets to go against Apple et al.,


Hold on!

Apple != MPEG-LA!!!

also

Microsoft != MPEG-LA

Both of them PAY MPEG-LA royalties because they are afraid of getting sued! It would be in Apple's and Microsoft's best interests if there were no MPEG-LA extorting money from them. Apple chose to support H.264 for basically two reasons, 1: they pay MPEG-LA royalties, so they won't get sued, if they used some other codec, they could potentially get sued by MPEG-LA, basically. And 2: they have a really good decoder for H.264, it would take a lot of time and money to implement decoders as good for other codecs.

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RE[3]: Wow
by Moochman on Mon 24th May 2010 18:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow"
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2005-07-06

Apple and MS are both patent holders in the H.264 patent pool. That means they get a cut of the royalties.

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RE[4]: Wow
by kaiwai on Tue 25th May 2010 12:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple and MS are both patent holders in the H.264 patent pool. That means they get a cut of the royalties.


Which probably means that pay almost nothing for h264 when one weighs up royalties versus payments.

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RE[3]: Wow
by RFC3251 on Mon 24th May 2010 21:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow"
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2010-05-24


Apple != MPEG-LA!!! also Microsoft != MPEG-LA

Both of them PAY MPEG-LA royalties because they are afraid of getting sued!


No, both Microsoft and Apple are members of the MPEG LA gang (along with Sony, Dolby, and a few others). They collect royalties from other companies using H.264 (and try to sue competing formats). That is why Apple and Microsoft refused to implement Theora decoding in their browsers (Safari and MSIE). They already pay MPEG LA to be allowed to use H.264, so there wasn't even any risk of being sued. They refused to support the open format because they get royalties from the proprietary one, and neither of them knows how to compete on a level playing field.

Google, Adobe, Mozilla, and Opera, on the other hand, are not members of MPEG LA (and only the first two pay the H.264 "protection money").

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