Linked by David Adams on Tue 25th May 2010 04:07 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over at Daringfireball this past weekend, John Gruber put words to what many people are thinking about after Google's rush of Android announcements and not-subtle Apple-bashing at this week's I/O conference: "all-out war." I agree with Gruber that a good old-fashioned bitter rivalry could be a great thing for the computing world, and for smartphone/handheld fans in particular.
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Out of touch with the world
by spiderman on Tue 25th May 2010 08:52 UTC
spiderman
Member since:
2008-10-23

The author completely ignores what has been going on in the mobile market for years and just focus on the new trendy "technology" from Apple and Google.
Please don't take offense but I suppose the guy is american and think smartphones are something new created by Apple and extended by Google.
Mobile technology is not about Android and the iPad or trendy flashy gadgets. This may be what technology is about in California. But if you want to see the global picture, don't ignore the elephants in the room.
Up until now, Google and Apple have been playing catchup with the mobile industry. HP just entered the market with WebOS. If you want to see where the mobile industry is heading, you should look at the industry leaders first.

Edited 2010-05-25 08:56 UTC

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RE: Out of touch with the world
by Kroc on Tue 25th May 2010 09:42 in reply to "Out of touch with the world"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

The market leaders are experts at the present, not the future. The market leaders are struggling with profitability and direction. They've been resting on their laurels. Nokia, Motorola and RIM have been pushing too many models with no drive for simplicity and dethroning the carriers.

Why is it it took Apple -- who never made a mobile phone before -- to dethrone AT&T's iron-like grip over handset design? Shouldn't that be the role of the market leader? No, they're just as bad as AT&T.

We could be entering an era where the entire computer industry changes hands and the market gets flipped up side down. This is normal and happens over and over again in smaller markets, but never at this scale.

* Could Intel eventually be dethroned by the ARM architecture?

* Could Apple destroy RIM? Could Android destroy the iPhone?

* Could WebM take the lead over H.264?

* Could Windows finally be obsoleted?

Exciting times.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

You are just speculating on the future of the mobile industry. Nobody know what the future is.
Currently, smartphones are like cars: a social recognition object. People buy it to look cool. In some spheres,taking pictures at 12MP is pretty cool, in other spheres, pinching is damn cool. Some people think they are cool with the Prada logo on their phone. Some other people like to show their big screen. That's about 20% of the people. The rest buy rock solid small phones that fit in their pocket with weeks of battery life for less than €/£/$1
The people who buy cool phones get bored really fast. They change it every year or every 6 months. Android and Apple are the trend currently in California. They are not trendy everywhere. The rest of the world doesn't care about AT&T iron grip at all. Go to a phone shop in Europe or in Asia and look at the models. The iPhone is one model at the back of the store between the N97 mini and the Samsung Galaxy, there are 1 or 2 Android phones and hundreds of other phones with designs and features that fit different people taste. People even buy throwable mobile phones in supermarkets.

Edited 2010-05-25 10:15 UTC

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_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

Windows obsolete? I think you guys are getting your hateful dreams a bit too far.

Windows is very much the primary desktop OS, and no, various open source desktop do not cut it.

Neither does OSX. Should I point out the abysmal 3D performance?

Windows 7 is actually mostly pleasant to use and works rather well - and it's fast including gaming (I use all main OSes, as many do here i suppose)
I don't need to point out how many businesses also rely on it and do not wanna switch their forests of active directories.

It's not going away anytime soon. And certainly not by 2011..

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

If you want to see where the mobile industry is heading, you should look at the industry leaders first.


So who are the industry leaders? Right now the iPhone is the best selling "smartphone" in the world. Android is the best selling "smartphone" platform in US.

RIM is done, MS is done, Nokia is done. I am not seeing any other leaders out there but maybe I am missing one?

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


So who are the industry leaders? Right now the iPhone is the best selling "smartphone" in the world. Android is the best selling "smartphone" platform in US.

Wrong and wrong.

RIM is done, MS is done, Nokia is done. I am not seeing any other leaders out there but maybe I am missing one?

Wrong, right, wrong. Missing one? You are missing the whole world outside Apple and Android! You have your head in the sand.

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