Linked by David Adams on Tue 25th May 2010 04:07 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over at Daringfireball this past weekend, John Gruber put words to what many people are thinking about after Google's rush of Android announcements and not-subtle Apple-bashing at this week's I/O conference: "all-out war." I agree with Gruber that a good old-fashioned bitter rivalry could be a great thing for the computing world, and for smartphone/handheld fans in particular.
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RE: Out of touch with the world
by Kroc on Tue 25th May 2010 09:42 UTC in reply to "Out of touch with the world"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

The market leaders are experts at the present, not the future. The market leaders are struggling with profitability and direction. They've been resting on their laurels. Nokia, Motorola and RIM have been pushing too many models with no drive for simplicity and dethroning the carriers.

Why is it it took Apple -- who never made a mobile phone before -- to dethrone AT&T's iron-like grip over handset design? Shouldn't that be the role of the market leader? No, they're just as bad as AT&T.

We could be entering an era where the entire computer industry changes hands and the market gets flipped up side down. This is normal and happens over and over again in smaller markets, but never at this scale.

* Could Intel eventually be dethroned by the ARM architecture?

* Could Apple destroy RIM? Could Android destroy the iPhone?

* Could WebM take the lead over H.264?

* Could Windows finally be obsoleted?

Exciting times.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

You are just speculating on the future of the mobile industry. Nobody know what the future is.
Currently, smartphones are like cars: a social recognition object. People buy it to look cool. In some spheres,taking pictures at 12MP is pretty cool, in other spheres, pinching is damn cool. Some people think they are cool with the Prada logo on their phone. Some other people like to show their big screen. That's about 20% of the people. The rest buy rock solid small phones that fit in their pocket with weeks of battery life for less than €/£/$1
The people who buy cool phones get bored really fast. They change it every year or every 6 months. Android and Apple are the trend currently in California. They are not trendy everywhere. The rest of the world doesn't care about AT&T iron grip at all. Go to a phone shop in Europe or in Asia and look at the models. The iPhone is one model at the back of the store between the N97 mini and the Samsung Galaxy, there are 1 or 2 Android phones and hundreds of other phones with designs and features that fit different people taste. People even buy throwable mobile phones in supermarkets.

Edited 2010-05-25 10:15 UTC

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Go to a phone shop in Europe or in Asia and look at the models


I did, and it was depressing. It was like a pack of designers had been let loose to do whatever they wanted in desperation; and when they fail they all get killed and a new set are bought in. No coherence, no direction.

The iPhone is one model at the back of the store


The one model getting all the attention.

The competition are floundering. The iPhone's high price and locked nature is its Achilles heel.

Android is succeeding because it offers essentially the same as the iPhone but with the flexibility European consumers want.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Currently, smartphones are like cars: a social recognition object. People buy it to look cool.
... The rest buy rock solid small phones that fit in their pocket with weeks of battery life for less than €/£/$1


There are certainly people that bought the iphone to look cool but most people buy them because they are useful. Small phones are great for battery life but they are lousy for browsing the web, entering contacts, playing games, etc. People are using smartphones as mini-computers. They're using them in cases where they would normally use a laptop.

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_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

Windows obsolete? I think you guys are getting your hateful dreams a bit too far.

Windows is very much the primary desktop OS, and no, various open source desktop do not cut it.

Neither does OSX. Should I point out the abysmal 3D performance?

Windows 7 is actually mostly pleasant to use and works rather well - and it's fast including gaming (I use all main OSes, as many do here i suppose)
I don't need to point out how many businesses also rely on it and do not wanna switch their forests of active directories.

It's not going away anytime soon. And certainly not by 2011..

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

My point was that all the interest, all the development and all the growth is heading to mobiles. It's a hype bandwagon. Desktops will still be around and will still be getting the actual work done whilst people Facebook their tweets.

Apple seem already to have forgotten about the desktop.

Windows is already obsolete to me because I can use any OS and run the web pages I want to. This trend is only going to increase unless Microsoft can rejuvenate the platform.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Windows 7 is actually mostly pleasant to use and works rather well - and it's fast including gaming (I use all main OSes, as many do here i suppose)
I don't need to point out how many businesses also rely on it and do not wanna switch their forests of active directories.

It's not going away anytime soon. And certainly not by 2011..

You make a fair point. For some people like me, things like endless flow of stupid popups, antiviruses, and bloated background services will be a bit too much, but for most people, Windows 7 is good enough facing the pain that one has to endure in order to switch away from it.

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