Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th May 2010 17:22 UTC, submitted by leonardoav
Slackware, Slax Pat Volkerding has released Slackware 13.1. "We have chosen to use the 2.6.33.4 kernel after testing the 2.6.33.x kernel branch extensively. Slackware 13.1 contains version 4.4.3 of the KDE Software Compilation. Several Xfce components have been updated as well. Xfce continues to be a great lightweight desktop that doesn't get in your way. If you haven't looked at this great desktop environment lately, you might want to give it another try. If you prefer GNOME, there are teams online producing GNOME for Slackware."
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Comment by error32
by error32 on Tue 25th May 2010 20:54 UTC
error32
Member since:
2008-12-10

I think installing slackware should be mandatory for every linux user. Just so they can understand what their system is all about (yes I am talking to you, ubuntu users).

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RE: Comment by error32
by vodoomoth on Tue 25th May 2010 21:05 in reply to "Comment by error32"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Why is that? I'm really interested in the answer as I may well oust Ubuntu 10.04 from the HDD. I'll probably try out Slackware and Fedora in the coming days.

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RE: Comment by error32
by OddFox on Tue 25th May 2010 21:08 in reply to "Comment by error32"
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2005-10-05

I think installing gentoo should be mandatory for every linux user. Just so they can understand all the intricacies of package interdependencies, fine-tuning configuration options for software and eventually learning how to manage their own local software repository (yes I am talking to you, users of anything who value different things than I do).

Just because someone uses a particular distribution on their box does not indicate a level of competency in and of itself, and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Newbies use Ubuntu, advanced users use Ubuntu. Newbies use Slackware, advanced users use Slackware. The fact of the matter is that using Slackware doesn't afford you any more education as to how a Linux system really works than using Ubuntu or Fedora, much in the same way that managing to complete a Gentoo install is not some impressive technical feat or educational in and of itself. It means you can follow instructions, that's it.

LFS is a pretty good educational tool/"distribution", if you really want to point at something that will force someone to learn how to piece things together bit by bit. But if someone really wants to learn how their system works (including but not limited to how it is built out of many different components and where those components are configured), no distro is going to prevent them from doing so.

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RE[2]: Comment by error32
by Oliver on Tue 25th May 2010 22:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by error32"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

>It means you can follow instructions, that's it.

Well, usually we call this education/experience. First you follow some instructions, then you're interested in what you're actually doing (probably to avoid the same mistakes again and again, later you gain experience. So there is a difference. People have to learn something or they will have to experience the pain in following stupid instructions again and again. People which don't want to learn usually leave such distros behind them. Just using a distro because it's cool is maybe usual behaviour among Gentoo-folk, but Slackers are more seasoned people eager to help beginners and to learn something.

Finally it's rather easy: if you don't get it, if you're a lazy bum, then just use something appropriate. There are hundreds of distros, but some people think all of them have to be like Ubuntu and that's real bullshit!

There is no magical all-in-one distro. That's PR-crap! There are distros for beginners, which want to advance in future, there distros for pros (rather spartan aka KISS) and there are distros for the casual user, browsing the web, using mail etc. with a certain degree of bling.

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RE: Comment by error32
by Wi11 on Wed 26th May 2010 03:01 in reply to "Comment by error32"
Wi11 Member since:
2009-12-27

Put down the haterade. I'm a long-time slackware user who switched to Ubuntu on the desktop.

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RE: Comment by error32
by orestes on Wed 26th May 2010 20:38 in reply to "Comment by error32"
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2005-07-06

I used to be like that, back in the mid 90s when I was a young, naive CS student excited about breaking and rebuilding my Slack, Redhat, and Debian installs. Then a funny thing happened... I hit the real world. I realized that as much fun as I had doing those things and as much as I learned, it's just not practical for the guy who really just needs his system running so he can so productive work.

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RE[2]: Comment by error32
by Brett Legree on Thu 27th May 2010 08:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by error32"
Brett Legree Member since:
2005-07-17

"...I hit the real world."

Exactly. I figure it's better to run *some kind of Linux* than not at all, and if one is busy with work, kids etc.

I used to run both Slackware and Gentoo, now running a mix of the "easier" distros (Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE) - though as the kids are growing older and getting easier, thinking of going back to the Slack ;)

The thing to remember whenever the "hardcore purists" start saying, "don't use 'distro X' because it holds your hand too much" is...

Linus Torvalds uses Fedora (last time I checked).

If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

Just use Linux and be happy we have choice!

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