Linked by David Adams on Tue 25th May 2010 04:07 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over at Daringfireball this past weekend, John Gruber put words to what many people are thinking about after Google's rush of Android announcements and not-subtle Apple-bashing at this week's I/O conference: "all-out war." I agree with Gruber that a good old-fashioned bitter rivalry could be a great thing for the computing world, and for smartphone/handheld fans in particular.
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bousozoku
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2006-01-23


...Wrong, right, wrong. Missing one? You are missing the whole world outside Apple and Android! You have your head in the sand.


Nokia is definitely on a downward slide and they know it. If not for their history, they'd be the smallest of the niche players. Warm and fuzzy won't work much longer. People want phones that work well. It's obvious that LG and Samsung are chipping away at Nokia on the bottom end and Android and iPhone at the top end.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Nokia is definitely on a downward slide and they know it. If not for their history, they'd be the smallest of the niche players. Warm and fuzzy won't work much longer. People want phones that work well. It's obvious that LG and Samsung are chipping away at Nokia on the bottom end and Android and iPhone at the top end.

LG is actually the leader in "smartphones" (flashy stuff with short battery life). It has constantly been selling more "smartphones" than Nokia for years. Nokia isn't going under because Nokia phones is not their core business and they sell more "dumb" phones anyway (those with long battery life that people buy more). They are selling the core technology. They make the network to support the phones and the OS. LG and Samsung add their layer on top of Symbian. Bada looks interesting. I believe the future is all about QT though. Nokia emerged as the leader of the phone industry because they were the first to get that phones are to be sexy, then all followed.
Before anybody come and bash Symbian, let me just tell them they don't know what they are talking about.

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HangLoose Member since:
2007-09-03

The recent numbers in devices dont actually hold true to what you are saying.

They have been sliding but have recovered. With the new Symbian^3 and later Symbian^4 I think they can better compete with iPhone (what is the latest innovation from cupertino? Video calling?! Thats not innovation.)

Dont forget MeeGo, in the long run this is where Nokia is going.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

what is the latest innovation from cupertino?
Using a horde of fans as marketing team. The iPhone lagging behind at pretty much everything doesn't matter much. Grabbing 2% of the market is such a small time frame is a great success. Their marketing strategy is working better than their bigger competitors. Their brand is recognized by their fans since the Apple II as a synonym to innovation and forward thinking. They have many ties with the media industry to help them maintain their status. The N8, Symbian^3 and more importantly QT will be ignored by the media and yet be installed on more phones than all other platforms combined. On the other hand, iPhone OS 4.0 will be covered from left and right while still playing catchup with the phone industry.

Edited 2010-05-26 10:11 UTC

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