Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th May 2010 15:34 UTC
Legal Well, this was as inevitable as the tides rolling in. The New York Times is reporting that the US Department of Justice is investigating Apple's tactics in the digital music market. The antitrust probe is still in an early phase, and is said to focus on "the dynamics of selling music online".
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RE[3]: Hmm...
by Tony Swash on Wed 26th May 2010 18:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hmm..."
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

But it still persists on videos. job’s call to action on DRM was nothing but a marketing stunt to rile up the Internet, just the same with his jabs at Flash.



Not a shred of evidence for that. Apple only does what the content sellers insist on in order to sell their content. Every time the content providers have agreed to remove DRM Apple have gone along with it, in fact embraced it. You misunderstand Apple's business model.

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RE[4]: Hmm...
by Kroc on Wed 26th May 2010 19:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Hmm..."
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Except for that whole variable pricing thing, right?

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RE[4]: Hmm...
by mtzmtulivu on Wed 26th May 2010 19:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Hmm..."
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14


Not a shred of evidence for that. Apple only does what the content sellers insist on in order to sell their content. Every time the content providers have agreed to remove DRM Apple have gone along with it, in fact embraced it. You misunderstand Apple's business model.


Not true. Apple requires all audio books to have DRM and content providers have no say in it.

A content owner discussed this requirenment in TWIT episode 249, a transcript of the relevant part:

Cory Doctorow So with Makers they agreed to drop the DRM from my audiobook. We still had some questions about it. We didn’t end up going with it. But they agreed to drop DRM from my audiobook. I thought that was really good of them. The problem was of course that Apple said, if you don’t put DRM in it, we won’t carry it, so – and Apple is the major distributor.

Leo Laporte So this is – the real question is who is enforcing this DRM stuff. Is it the publishers? And we had this conversation before where you said you tried to get Audible to do without DRM. And they said, no, we’re just not going to do that.

Cory Doctorow So they changed their mind.

Leo Laporte So that’s good news, yeah.

Cory Doctorow Yeah, I think that’s great. But Apple refused to carry it on the iTunes Store. They said DRM or nothing.


so it seems apple is preventing some publishers of audio books from selling their books without DRM.

You can download and listen to the podcast yourself from here: http://twit.tv/249

The comment was made at around one hour and nineteen minutes into the episode.

Edited 2010-05-26 19:51 UTC

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RE[5]: Hmm...
by fanboi_fanboi on Wed 26th May 2010 21:59 in reply to "RE[4]: Hmm..."
fanboi_fanboi Member since:
2010-04-21

Good gravy, I'd DRM the hell out of Doctorow's tripe. He's as smart as a bag of hammers.

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RE[5]: Hmm...
by darknexus on Thu 27th May 2010 16:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Hmm..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Not true. Apple requires all audio books to have DRM and content providers have no say in it.


Don't twist things. Audiobook producers cannot sell their audiobooks on iTunes (stupid, imho) Apple goes exclusively through audible.com. Audible are the ones requiring DRM and giving the authors and other providers no say in it. Apple cannot, legally, remove DRM from their audiobooks until audible says they can. Audible refuses, they won't even allow an author who sells their books directly through audible to have DRM-free files even if said author wishes to do so. You want DRM-free audiobooks on iTunes, go after the real problem: Audible. Either that, or help Apple contracts with another audiobook provider when it comes time.

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