Linked by Kroc Camen on Sat 29th May 2010 20:41 UTC
Apple I've been meaning to write this for some time, and for all the time I delayed the more poignant the point I wanted to make started to become as new news came out further solidifying my angle. When I begun writing this article the iPad had not yet been revealed, iPhone OS 4 was not on the map and Apple had not yet purchased Lala. You've probably just noticed that all of these events in fact point toward Apple embracing the web more and in this article I will point out why this is not the case because I believe Apple's agenda here is similar to something we've already seen in recent history.
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RE[3]: Ironic
by daveak on Sun 30th May 2010 13:51 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ironic"
daveak
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1) This is more or less just parroting back Apple's official line, which they are using to pull the wool over the eyes of consumers. Fact is, the lines between "computer" and "appliance" are blurring, and have been for a long time. Apple is just hoping that we get so used to the idea of our computing devices being locked up that we won't even notice the day our "non-appliance" devices become irrelevant and our freedom has forever disappeared.


That is just paranoia in my view. If/When they start doing the same to MacOS those fears may make sense. The counter to your argument always used is game consoles. Are Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo trying to lock up our computing devices and take away our freedom? Microsoft possibly being the best comparison here to Apple with Windows Phone 7.

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RE[4]: Ironic
by Moochman on Sun 30th May 2010 14:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Ironic"
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That is just paranoia in my view. If/When they start doing the same to MacOS those fears may make sense. The counter to your argument always used is game consoles. Are Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo trying to lock up our computing devices and take away our freedom? Microsoft possibly being the best comparison here to Apple with Windows Phone 7.


First of all, AFAIK Windows Phone 7 does not have licensing terms that prohibit you from developing and distributing whatever you want for the phone. The development tools admittedly all come from MS, but there is legally no reason you can't install whatever the hell you want on there.

Second of all, it may or may not come down to Mac OS, or maybe by the time it does Mac OS won't be relevant any more. The main thing to think about is the precedent the iDevices are setting. Think about the complacency being built up in the consumer base.

As for consoles: You are absolutely right, they are way out of line. It is wrong that MS has absolute and final control to kill your XBox hardware whenever they feel like it. It is wrong that Sony forces you to choose between using Linux and using connected games. And it is wrong that Nintendo tries to prevent you from installing homebrew games.

The only reason that console makers get away with this crap is that consoles have only recently joined the realm of computers in a broader sense -- internet-connected and capable of general computing tasks beyond gaming. And the lines will continue to blur. So I think that we need to be increasingly vigilant about licensing terms on consoles as they encroach more and more on general computing tasks, just like with the iDevices.

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RE[5]: Ironic
by daveak on Sun 30th May 2010 14:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Ironic"
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2008-12-29


First of all, AFAIK Windows Phone 7 does not have licensing terms that prohibit you from developing and distributing whatever you want for the phone. The development tools admittedly all come from MS, but there is legally no reason you can't install whatever the hell you want on there.


So long as I want to write it in .NET, or Microsoft deem me worthy to join their select group that are allowed to use native code. This takes away the possibility of having a standard backend across iDevice/Android/WP7 without having to ask permission.

This then leads us onto, what other browsers will MS allow? Will Mozilla and Opera be allowed access to native code? What about a random development house who think they can write their own better browser?

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