Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Jun 2010 09:42 UTC
Google Google employees have always had a remarkable amount of freedom when it comes to what operating system they wanted to run on company computers - Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, it was all fine. Since the China attacks, however, this has changed: Windows is no longer welcome on Google computers.
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RE[2]: Secure alternative
by woegjiub on Tue 1st Jun 2010 10:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Secure alternative"
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Whilst they may be equally insecure, there are far less instances of developed malware for the Apple operating system.

There is a large botnet of macs though - pirated versions of adobe software with trojans built-in caused a huge number of them.

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RE[3]: Secure alternative
by Lennie on Tue 1st Jun 2010 11:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Secure alternative"
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2007-09-22

1. Microsoft is really slow a lot of the times with creating fixes when problems are reported. Some say they are getting better with writing software. I'm not so sure. Every new release of windows they say, we've rewritten large parts and checked large parts of the code base. And every single time some bug is found in DCOM or whatever and it turns out they were vulnerable for that bug ever since the NT4-era all the way up to the lastest version. The only difference is, in newer versions they added a firewall or similair general purpose layer. Sometimes it's even on by default.

2. Apple on the other hand is slow with pushing security updates for things which they did not create themselfs, like Java and open source libraries. We don't know much about the rest, but it doesn't seem to be much better.

3. Their is a lot more malware out their for Windows.

4. Many malware writers were so annoyed by Vista as their primary desktop they switched to using a Mac and started writing malware for the Mac as well.

To be honest, I don't know what is better.

These companies don't seem to be interrested in pushing out updates. It's work they don't want to do, they just do enough to not get a bad image.

But if you look at what Google is doing, you have to remember, they are doing this because it fits their way of working. I wouldn't be surprised that in their environment a Unix-based Mac is much easier to secure because it's similair to Linux (I heared Ubuntu).

So it means less work for them.

Edited 2010-06-01 11:59 UTC

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RE[3]: Secure alternative
by Tony Swash on Tue 1st Jun 2010 14:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Secure alternative"
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2009-08-22

There is a large botnet of macs though - pirated versions of adobe software with trojans built-in caused a huge number of them.


.... and your evidence to support this claim is?

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RE[4]: Secure alternative
by woegjiub on Wed 2nd Jun 2010 02:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Secure alternative"
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RE[4]: Secure alternative
by NeoX on Wed 2nd Jun 2010 02:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Secure alternative"
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2006-02-19


.... and your evidence to support this claim is?

I did read about the botnets and the Adobe/iWorks trojans.

http://www.crn.com/security/212902615

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/20815/

You can read about it at the above link. Bottom line is that if you legally purchase your software, you won't get these nasties... Also don't just automatically type in your administrator password when asked for it by an installer or an app. Research it first.

That being said I feel the Mac is more secure because of the lack of malware and better over all security model vs XP. Vista and 7 take a bit from what OS X has had for a while and that is a step in the right direction.

Still a lot of the malware that gets installed on a system is due to plain old user error and saying YES to a dialog box that they should not have accepted. I have seen many fake A/V apps get installed this way instantly disabling the windows security center and any security app with it.

Edited 2010-06-02 02:43 UTC

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