Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Jun 2010 15:36 UTC
Internet & Networking Earlier this week, Apple launched a HTML5 Showcase page, displaying several uses for HTML5 and related technologies. However, it turns out that Apple is using trickery to block out browsers other than Safari, with the end result that browsers with better support for web standards than Safari can't access the demos.
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RE[2]: Still unclear
by Kilogramm on Fri 4th Jun 2010 16:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Still unclear"
Kilogramm
Member since:
2010-05-04

The web is the totality of all things, not only those approved by the W3C. If we stuck only to the W3C we would not have YouTube, Facebook, Hulu.

Let the users decide what is best. I myself prefer things that first of all work, and second of all work well. W3C politics is very low on my and many people's lists of priorities.

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RE[3]: Still unclear
by Kroc on Fri 4th Jun 2010 17:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Still unclear"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Opera invented the video tag. Apple invented the canvas tag. Microsoft invented ContentEditable and XMLHTTPRequest.

The web is the sum of healthy competition with browser vendors coming up with ideas and providing them in a way everybody can implement.

Total IE domination ensured that there was no more features for the web, which is why Flash became the mainstay for video. The healthier market we have now immediately shows the difference with how quickly features are being adopted across all browsers. Had we had a healthy market back in 2003, then there’s no reason to not believe that HTML video couldn’t have been implemented then. Microsoft could have not cared less, was the problem.

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RE[4]: Still unclear
by PresentIt on Fri 4th Jun 2010 17:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Still unclear"
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

What's funny is that Opera also invented HTML5. Or, they started the project that became HTML5.

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RE[3]: Still unclear
by oinet on Sun 6th Jun 2010 20:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Still unclear"
oinet Member since:
2010-03-23

The web is the totality of all things, not only those approved by the W3C. If we stuck only to the W3C we would not have YouTube, Facebook, Hulu.


For the 10^1000'th time: Hulu is not, nor has anything to do with, "The web".

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RE[4]: Still unclear
by Shannara on Mon 7th Jun 2010 02:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Still unclear"
Shannara Member since:
2005-07-06

Lying does not make it true. Quit trolling.

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RE[3]: Still unclear
by lemur2 on Mon 7th Jun 2010 00:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Still unclear"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

The web is the totality of all things, not only those approved by the W3C. If we stuck only to the W3C we would not have YouTube, Facebook, Hulu. Let the users decide what is best. I myself prefer things that first of all work, and second of all work well. W3C politics is very low on my and many people's lists of priorities.


Depending on exactly what you define as "the web" it may or may not be only those standards approved by the W3C.

This does absolutely nothing to change the fact that HTML5 is a W3C standard. The totality of HTML5 IS only that which is approved by the W3C.

W3C patent policy (which includes its policy for HTML5) is here:
http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/
The W3C Patent Policy governs the handling of patents in the process of producing Web standards. The goal of this policy is to assure that Recommendations produced under this policy can be implemented on a Royalty-Free (RF) basis.


Therefore h.264 support (for example) is NOT HTML5. Period. Never was, never will be.

Edited 2010-06-07 00:14 UTC

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