Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Jun 2010 15:36 UTC
Internet & Networking Earlier this week, Apple launched a HTML5 Showcase page, displaying several uses for HTML5 and related technologies. However, it turns out that Apple is using trickery to block out browsers other than Safari, with the end result that browsers with better support for web standards than Safari can't access the demos.
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RE[4]: Still unclear
by Neolander on Fri 4th Jun 2010 20:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Still unclear"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

"I think the browser vendors could be more productive in getting HTML5 interactive demos running above a few frames a second before trashing RIA platforms like Silverlight and AIR (Yes, even AIR, and AIR sucks.)

So, you clearly haven't seen the latest browser demos.
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Myself, I have seen the "latest browser demos", in the form of HTML5 video on Kroc's website. Looking at it, it *does* run at 3-4 fps at best. Probably less. Don't know, when scrolling doesn't work smoothly in my browser anymore, I start to go berserk...

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RE[5]: Still unclear
by Nelson on Fri 4th Jun 2010 21:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Still unclear"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Yeah, and I'm still shocked how people can say it's "good enough"? As if web users should be forced to deal with mediocrity for the sake of having politically motivated developers feel principled.

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RE[6]: Still unclear
by Kroc on Fri 4th Jun 2010 21:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Still unclear"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Because the alternative—a closed web—is better? There’s nothing politically minded about using the format that can reach the most number of devices, doesn’t rely upon any proprietary tools and doesn't rely on the future of some company’s stock price. It’s common sense!

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RE[5]: Still unclear
by Vargol on Fri 4th Jun 2010 21:46 in reply to "RE[4]: Still unclear"
Vargol Member since:
2006-02-28

Looking at it, it *does* run at 3-4 fps at best. Probably less. Don't know, when scrolling doesn't work smoothly in my browser anymore, I start to go berserk...


You've got serious problems with your computer even my ancient iMac
(32 bit 2GZ Core Duo, ATI RadeonX1600) plays it full speed at 20% CPU. Playing the same video on flash on Vimeo averages around 87% and at one point got up to 115%.

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RE[6]: Still unclear
by Neolander on Sat 5th Jun 2010 06:37 in reply to "RE[5]: Still unclear"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

You've got serious problems with your computer even my ancient iMac
(32 bit 2GZ Core Duo, ATI RadeonX1600) plays it full speed at 20% CPU. Playing the same video on flash on Vimeo averages around 87% and at one point got up to 115%.

Wow ! Now C2D technology is "ancient" ??? How fast computer science is as forgetting things...

Vimeo HD runs slightly smoother, but is still unusable. I always use standard quality when I go to this site, it's already more than good enough for a web video and it runs close to smoothly (still significantly worse than YouTube, and on par with DailyMotion HQ. I suppose it's the price you pay for the additional quality).

My computer has got only a little older config than yours, if I remember hardware history well (Athlon 64 3000+ (overclocked), 1GB ram, Geforce 7800 GT). The difference is that it runs linux, so according to the HTML5 enthusiasts it should immensely benefit from HTML5 video. However, the feature seems not to work as advertised.

I agree that once I get my core i5 laptop, I probably won't get any performance problem anymore, be it with HTML 5 or Flash. But I think about all those people who access the web from a netbook with an Atom processor, 512 MB ram, a crappy hard drive, and an intel GMA chipset... We can't just assume that because hardware is more powerful, it gives us the right to write unoptimized software ! Because as time passes, high-end computers get more powerful, but low-end computers get less powerful too...

Edited 2010-06-05 06:55 UTC

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