Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jun 2010 22:07 UTC
Apple When Apple announced its iAd mobile advertising initiative, many of us wondered how this would effect other mobile advertising agencies on the iPhone, and more specifically, Google's AdMob. Well, now we know: Apple has revised its iOS developer agreement to specifically lock out Google's AdMod. And then people wonder why Apple is no longer the darling of the geek world.
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RE[2]: Gloves
by fgrasset on Wed 9th Jun 2010 00:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Gloves"
fgrasset
Member since:
2005-12-02

Google does not need Apple. Not even in the slightest.


Well... actually google have the choice between Apple and Microsoft for their desktop computer (chromeOS nor android are ready for that yet, Linux is here but can’t replace completely yet).

And here the one who don’t need other is... Microsoft

Thus Google still need Apple for one thing... oh and for WebKit (Google do work for chromium but what about webkit itself??? Apple engineer have to made WebKit 2 in order to have the tab isolation of chromium...)

The user need goggle essentially for the search part... for other services well Apple, Microsoft and lot of other company provide them too (yes for map also ;) )
Thus I think Google are happy that Apple still use Google Map, provide easy access to Google Mail, etc

Sure everyone understand that the Google policy is to become the Apple+Microsoft of tomorrow... we’ll see...

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RE[3]: Gloves
by rhetoric.sendmemoney on Wed 9th Jun 2010 00:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Gloves"
rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

Well... actually google have the choice between Apple and Microsoft for their desktop computer (chromeOS nor android are ready for that yet, Linux is here but can’t replace completely yet).

And here the one who don’t need other is... Microsoft


** Why does google need Apple or Microsoft for desktop? They are a search provider. They only need to make sure there stuff WORKS on OSX and Windows... they don't need it. They already dropped Windows as an option in their organization anyways. Google can and does do business running Linux. Apple (like Linux) is solely an employee choice.

Thus Google still need Apple for one thing... oh and for WebKit (Google do work for chromium but what about webkit itself??? Apple engineer have to made WebKit 2 in order to have the tab isolation of chromium...)


++ Webkit is open source through and through. Apple develops a lot of it but it was open source before Apple and would be open source without Apple.

The user need goggle essentially for the search part... for other services well Apple, Microsoft and lot of other company provide them too (yes for map also ;) )
Thus I think Google are happy that Apple still use Google Map, provide easy access to Google Mail, etc


++ As Stephen Colbert (roughly) put it last night. "Whats Bing? Its a search engine! How do I know? I googled it!"

Enough said.

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RE[4]: Gloves
by fgrasset on Wed 9th Jun 2010 00:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Gloves"
fgrasset Member since:
2005-12-02

** Why does google need Apple or Microsoft for desktop? They are a search provider. They only need to make sure there stuff WORKS on OSX and Windows... they don't need it. They already dropped Windows as an option in their organization anyways. Google can and does do business running Linux. Apple (like Linux) is solely an employee choice.

Lol, and you think that an IT company work with pen and paper on their desktop... yes in some ways... but they NEEDS computer... and in the case of Google it’s a strategic choice...

++ Webkit is open source through and through. Apple develops a lot of it but it was open source before Apple and would be open source without Apple.

Well, I think your wrong (again ;) ) WebKit is an Apple project, they create it as a fork of the KHTML sources (a very good Web engine I used on daily basis), but they made it a *serious* Web engine (well after some years of efforts).
About WebKit be open-source without Apple... well not with that name... and sure not a lot of company are ready to spend that much money (lot of people involved mostly fix part that are related to their port or are reviewer). Thus actually google need apple to work on the core engine.
(But when the 3D part done by google will become mainstream, then we can thanks google for this major contribution)


++ As Stephen Colbert (roughly) put it last night. "Whats Bing? Its a search engine! How do I know? I googled it! »
Enough said.


What means the verb « gloogled » ? I search on bing... (no I just kidding)... thus what the point aside some funny words?

Say more...

The fact that google is so much present is a big concern... that why I just use google when I need using... everything else chrome ;)

and the fact is that search engine aside, every other service have a equivalent or even better counter part by other company that don’t sell me to the ad business (or I hope...).

Thus in order to still reach people like me (i’m not the only one) they need company like Apple (and even microsoft) while they still have some market share...

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RE[3]: Gloves
by fatjoe on Wed 9th Jun 2010 08:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Gloves"
fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

Thus Google still need Apple for one thing... oh and for WebKit (Google do work for chromium but what about webkit itself??? Apple engineer have to made WebKit 2 in order to have the tab isolation of chromium...)



1. WebKit is open source
2. WebKit is a fork of KTHML from KDE
3. Apple just hosts and administrates the project, WebKit is actually "developed" by multiple parties
4. If people get tired of Apple policies, they can fork WebKit or back-port all changes to KHTML and continue that path

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RE[3]: Gloves
by Shkaba on Wed 9th Jun 2010 15:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Gloves"
Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

You are giving way to much credit to Apple and not enough to other participants in Webkit. I guess this is typical for a fanboy ... forgeting to give credit where credit is due

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