Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 8th Jun 2010 22:07 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS

The Syllable project is pleased to announce that the reports of its death have been greatly exaggerated, and that the new version 0.4 of Syllable Server has been released. This release focuses on maturing existing functionality, improving security, ongoing system restructuring, and making the system a suitable base for third-party package managers. Although the project admits it hasn't brought its unicorn factory online yet, extensive work was done on the nitty-gritty, so the full change log is quite long.

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Cool, I guess...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 9th Jun 2010 00:32 UTC
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...but dammit, I want to see some Syllable *DESKTOP* progress.

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RE: Cool, I guess...
by Kaj-de-Vos on Wed 9th Jun 2010 01:35 in reply to "Cool, I guess..."
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Most of the development you see here is Syllable Desktop progress. Syllable Desktop and Syllable Server are developed on the same base. They use many of the same components, from GNU and others, and our own build system with only limited variations between the two. For example, all the heavy system restructuring and most of the package upgrades will also be in the next Desktop build. Besides, Desktop has its own advancements going on.

Also, the last Server release was from almost two years ago, and the last Desktop build is from January, so methought Server was eligible for a new release.

Finally, if you want more Syllable Desktop progress, then make some! Syllable is a volunteer project.

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RE[2]: Cool, I guess...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 9th Jun 2010 01:52 in reply to "RE: Cool, I guess..."
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Finally, if you want more Syllable Desktop progress, then make some! Syllable is a volunteer project.

You seem to be forgetting that skill is required to be able to do much. No, open source is not enough--it requires developers, which I am not.

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RE: Cool, I guess...
by cipri on Wed 9th Jun 2010 10:55 in reply to "Cool, I guess..."
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dream on. Most of the syllable developers are gone. Vanders is still there, but it seems he lost some of his interest in coding for syllable (compared to earlier), I remember he was saying that he is tired.

In the years before, there was a development build every week, now there is a development-build every few month, the last development-build is about 6 month old! Compared to haiku, which has a development-build every day! (not just one, but all kind of version like: gcc2, gcc4, hybrid..., CD, anybot,....VMWare,..., raw,....)

The last syllable desktop release is more than 1 year ago, and even that release needed about 1.5 years! I suppose this one will take about the same time, if not more. If you try to extract information out of the change-log of syllable desktop, you will see, that the "real-development" (not just things like fixing a link, renaming/moving a file) is nearly ZERO in the last year.

In 2004 syllable has been seen as a small OS with a big potential. At that time they were a small group of developers, in that 6 years they even managed to lose developers, and to become even smaller.

Related to Syllable Server:
Yes the changelog is long (imaginary), but if you take a look at it, you also can see, that it has not a big consitence it is mostly:
update package, renamed/moved folder, configure options.... and so on...
but nothing related to real development.
What is the c++ source code, that has been written in the last 4 years by the syllable team, for syllable server, how many lines (roughly approximated) does it contain?

Yes kaj, managed to make a little linux-distro (if it can be called like that) in about 4 years!!!! And once he mentionated that he works fulltime on it :-) Yes this is a great result.

It's funny, that kaj continues to tell, the few syllable users that are still there, that syllable is very successfull :-))

So dear UZ64, I guess you won't see big progress from syllable.... in the near future. 5 years ago, when I start playing with syllable I would have never believed, that syllable in 5 years would come to that result. Everyone expected a lot more.

In the last 5 years they planned to have a "google summer of code" project, that even didn't manage to apply to gsoc. Compared to Haiku which has this year, 7 google summer of code projects that are accepted by google.

I shouldn't have wasted time writing about that subject, but perhaps someone finds it interesting.

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RE[2]: Cool, I guess...
by Kaj-de-Vos on Wed 9th Jun 2010 11:05 in reply to "RE: Cool, I guess..."
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Ah, it's our Syllable house troll. His appearance was expected. To give people some perspective why he is now trolling against us here on OSNews, it's because he isn't welcome anymore on our forum:"

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