Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jun 2010 22:07 UTC
Apple When Apple announced its iAd mobile advertising initiative, many of us wondered how this would effect other mobile advertising agencies on the iPhone, and more specifically, Google's AdMob. Well, now we know: Apple has revised its iOS developer agreement to specifically lock out Google's AdMod. And then people wonder why Apple is no longer the darling of the geek world.
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RE[3]: Geek market control
by Tony Swash on Wed 9th Jun 2010 13:50 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Geek market control"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

"Apple will continue to sell increasing numbers of iPhones.


sure they will. Android will just increase faster.
"

I doubt it - it hasn't so far.

The iOS development pace is already outpaced like crazy by Android.


No it hasn't - each OS takes decisions to add or emphasise different features but Android has not pulled ahead and it won't. Because Android is fragmented and because it cannot integrate with the hardware as deeply or predictably as iOS the latter is a more attractive platform for developers.

"Remain"? Both Symbian and BlackBerry are FAR more dominant than iOS. RDF much?


iOS has an installed base of 100 million and unlike the Symbian and BlackBerry it offers a far more cohesive and accessible target for developers - hence the vast preponderance of iOS apps. iOS is the dominant mobile platform in the central and strategic metric of developer support.

What counts now is not dumbed down systems like Symbian but the smart mobile platform - that's the game to play and its the game iOS is clearly winning.

With 10 million plus iPhones, a lot of iPod Touches and a million (2 million?) iPads likely being sold per month the installed iOS base is growing very rapidly and will thus continue to be the most attractive platform for developers (plus of course the App Store which is hugely popular with developers).

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RE[4]: Geek market control
by Neolander on Wed 9th Jun 2010 14:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Geek market control"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

What counts now is not dumbed down systems like Symbian but the smart mobile platform - that's the game to play and its the game iOS is clearly winning.

Please tell me how an OS whose home screen displays a dumb wall of application launchers instead of something useful like incoming agenda entries is a "smarter" mobile platform.

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RE[5]: Geek market control
by Tony Swash on Wed 9th Jun 2010 15:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Geek market control"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

please tell me how an OS whose home screen displays a dumb wall of application launchers instead of something useful like incoming agenda entries is a "smarter" mobile platform.


Are you a simpleton?

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RE[4]: Geek market control
by JAlexoid on Thu 10th Jun 2010 08:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Geek market control"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

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sure they will. Android will just increase faster.


I doubt it - it hasn't so far.
"
You probably live in the US, because where I live the hot selling mobile phones are Android based(HTC Desire - truly lived up to it's name...)

"The iOS development pace is already outpaced like crazy by Android.


No it hasn't - each OS takes decisions to add or emphasise different features but Android has not pulled ahead and it won't. Because Android is fragmented and because it cannot integrate with the hardware as deeply or predictably as iOS the latter is a more attractive platform for developers.
"
Please.... The biggest number of "complaints" of fragmentation come from iPhone app developers that started to do Android. I develop for Android and all it takes to alleviate the fragmentation is an open mind.(Yes, a lot of iPhone devs I've met are closed minded)

""Remain"? Both Symbian and BlackBerry are FAR more dominant than iOS. RDF much?


iOS has an installed base of 100 million and unlike the Symbian and BlackBerry it offers a far more cohesive and accessible target for developers - hence the vast preponderance of iOS apps. iOS is the dominant mobile platform in the central and strategic metric of developer support.

What counts now is not dumbed down systems like Symbian but the smart mobile platform - that's the game to play and its the game iOS is clearly winning.

With 10 million plus iPhones, a lot of iPod Touches and a million (2 million?) iPads likely being sold per month the installed iOS base is growing very rapidly and will thus continue to be the most attractive platform for developers (plus of course the App Store which is hugely popular with developers).
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You may want to twist the numbers however you like, but the fact remains that Symbian still is king in the world. And please stop sticking to that stupid premise that if it's not in the shape and form of an iphone it's not a smartphone. All BalckBerries are smartphones. Nokia's smartphones are cheaper than cheapest iPod touch, so no wonder they sell more(See C5, 5230, E52, E63).
And with those good growth numbers, iOS may probably overtake Symbian, but it's not a fact at the moment.

"80% of all statistical studies are incorrect, a statistical study concludes" - Dilbert

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RE[4]: Geek market control
by sorpigal on Thu 10th Jun 2010 11:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Geek market control"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

iOS has an installed base of 100 million

lolwut? Citations or it didn't happen.

Also, when did we start calling the iPhoneOS iOS? I find it terribly disconcerting (and won't Cisco be mad?)

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RE[5]: Geek market control
by Neolander on Thu 10th Jun 2010 11:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Geek market control"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Also, when did we start calling the iPhoneOS iOS? I find it terribly disconcerting (and won't Cisco be mad?)

Complain to Apple. They decided to change the name in order to celebrate iPhone4's release. And knowing some Apple trolls around, anyone which now uses the iPhoneOS term will be flagged as a passeist which does not see how GREAT iOS has become ;)

Edited 2010-06-10 11:57 UTC

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RE[5]: Geek market control
by Tony Swash on Thu 10th Jun 2010 14:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Geek market control"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

"iOS has an installed base of 100 million

lolwut? Citations or it didn't happen.

Also, when did we start calling the iPhoneOS iOS? I find it terribly disconcerting (and won't Cisco be mad?)
"

Do you live in a bunker?

Steve Jobs announced the name change at Apple's World Wide Developers Conference on Monday and also announced the sale of the 100 millionth device running the OS.

The event was carried on just about every news site and tech blog on the planet - what were you doing - dozing?

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1006ad9g4hjk/event/index.html

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